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Fire emblem?
« on: June 17, 2015, 05:22:59 PM »
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Anyone here a fan? A new fire emblem (Fire Emblem Fates) has just had another trailer released and it looks amazing. The only person here who I can guess is a fan is Isildur.
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Re: Fire emblem?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 12:05:38 PM »
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Not really a diehard, as I only joined with Awakening, but yeah, it looks really good. A lot of the changes they made from Awakening seem really smart, and I'm going to waste a lot of time on My Castle.
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 03:19:22 PM »
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I only have played Shadow Dragon and Awakening, but it was enough to get me hooked. There looks like there are going to be a bunch of new features but My castle looks the best.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 04:42:05 PM »
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Yeah, that's more than enough. This one looks so complex, too! The dual storyline will hurt my wallet, but they both look fantastic. So now the real question: Hoshido or Nohr? Personally, I'm leaning Hoshido.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 07:30:01 PM »
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I'm leaning toward Hoshido as well! But very much torn between the two.  I like the promise of new challenges but story line wise I'm liking Hoshido. Definitely want to play it both ways.

EDIT:
If you like Awakening I'd like to share my most broken character combos that I can find (only two). This assumes you've bought select DLC maps as well as received the free bonus content.

Walhart the INVINCIBLE.
Steps to achieve:
1. Recruit Walhart. (Free bonus content)
2. Promote him to Dread Fighter and level him up to level 15. (DLC)
3. Keep Resistance +10 skill then reclass him to general as soon as possible.
4. (Optional) learn pavise.
5. Teach him Limit Breaker and max out his stats. (DLC)
6. Teach him the skill All stats +2. (DLC)
At the end he should know: Limit breaker, All stats +2, Conqueror, Pavise, and Resistance +10.
Here are his cumulative stats:
Hp:80
Strength: 66
Magic:40
Skill:53
Speed:46
Luck:56
Def:66
Res:55
In addition he knows pavise to halve damage and conqueror makes him invulnerable to bonus damage by hammers, armorslayers and the like.

Lucina the Lethal.
Quite simple here, for maximum effect teach her limit breaker and max her stats, then let her know rightful king (Great Lord Skill) and lethality (Assasin skill). You now have a character with a 25% chance of outright one shotting your opponent.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2015, 11:45:45 AM by Eragon5 »
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Re: Fire emblem?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2015, 03:10:48 PM »
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Wow, that Walhart. I'm crying already. I haven't bought any DLC but I have the free content. Personally, Armsthrift Nosferatank seems to be the most broken out of all builds, just because of the never die aspect. Sorceror (or Aversa, if you really want) with Armsthrift, Sol, Vantage, and whatever else you want, maybe Tomefaire or Renewal (if you have DLC Limit Breaker). Of course, there are only a few characters that can do this and most are child characters, but it functions fairly well with even with one piece missing. You don't even need Dark magic, as a character like Gregor has a high enough skill stat that he triggers Sol almost half the time, and that's usually enough recovery. Who are your favourite male and female Awakening Characters?
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Re: Fire emblem?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2015, 03:27:15 PM »
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Male (top 3)
Walhart
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Lon'qu
Female (top 3)
Morgan
Tiki
probably Nah

I love manaketes since they are so powerful which pretty much explains my favorite female, for male I've always wanted a mage/swordsman, the only thing that could make it better is if he were a manakete like in Fire Emblem fates  ;), lon'qu is just a fun character. Fast and fairly powerful and you can't complain with a 60+ skill stat when he's an assassin. Walhart is  . . . unstoppable. His weaknesses are magic, counter, and lethality. A good tactition will figure out ways to counter the latter two and magic will be fairly mitigated with a 55 resistance.

Best trick to making them think twice about attacking Walhart: Take a (short spear?) which has range 1-2. Has attack 1 and crit 30. Forge it so it has crit 45 and attack 4-5. With Walhart's strength at 66 his net attack is about 70 that's enough to do a fair amount of damage to any mage. With the critical 45 + his 51 skill stat you're pretty sure to have a good critical hit chance as well.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2015, 03:37:14 PM »
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The broken good character builds always felt unnecessary to me as the AI really can't handle any sort of well built Robin/Morgan at any level of difficulty, and you can't really fight other people.
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Re: Fire emblem?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2015, 03:52:47 PM »
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Male (top 3)
Walhart
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Lon'qu
Female (top 3)
Morgan
Tiki
probably Nah

I love manaketes since they are so powerful which pretty much explains my favorite female, for male I've always wanted a mage/swordsman, the only thing that could make it better is if he were a manakete like in Fire Emblem fates  ;), lon'qu is just a fun character. Fast and fairly powerful and you can't complain with a 60+ skill stat when he's an assassin. Walhart is  . . . unstoppable. His weaknesses are magic, counter, and lethality. A good tactition will figure out ways to counter the latter two and magic will be fairly mitigated with a 55 resistance.

Best trick to making them think twice about attacking Walhart: Take a (short spear?) which has range 1-2. Has attack 1 and crit 30. Forge it so it has crit 45 and attack 4-5. With Walhart's strength at 66 his net attack is about 70 that's enough to do a fair amount of damage to any mage. With the critical 45 + his 51 skill stat you're pretty sure to have a good critical hit chance as well.

Mine are probably Stahl, Owain and Yen'fay for guys and Olivia, Panne and Severa for girls. I like Stahl because he reminds me of me, good-natured and utterly average. He's not the best character, (not even close) so working him into my teams can be a challenge at times, but also fun. Owain's personality is too good not to be a favourite of mine. As a child, he's also pretty much guaranteed to be good stats-wise. Finally, Yen'fay for the tearjerker plot point and +4 speed mod. Olivia can get Galeforce and has Dancer, so she can be quite useful (although rather frail). Panne has great stat mods, and though overshadowed by Manaketes, Taguels are an awesome class. Severa has guaranteed great classes from Cordelia, and her supports are hilarious. Yeah, I believe it's Miniature Spear, and nothing is taking that well except Lunatic+ units with Pavise+ and Lethality or something.
The broken good character builds always felt unnecessary to me as the AI really can't handle any sort of well built Robin/Morgan at any level of difficulty, and you can't really fight other people.

True true. Unless you're doing Lunatic or higher, there really is no need. I actually haven't done lunatic, because the only strategy is tank with Frederick until the Outrealm Gate opens then use the XP DLC map and grind for days. It's still fun to find the combos, though.
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Re: Fire emblem?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2015, 03:58:14 PM »
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The broken good character builds always felt unnecessary to me as the AI really can't handle any sort of well built Robin/Morgan at any level of difficulty, and you can't really fight other people.

True true. Unless you're doing Lunatic or higher, there really is no need. I actually haven't done lunatic, because the only strategy is tank with Frederick until the Outrealm Gate opens then use the XP DLC map and grind for days. It's still fun to find the combos, though.

Even on Lunatic, yeah you have to Fredrick the first few missions (and those missions are literally luck. There are only certain combinations of moves you can do to win, and your ability to win with those combinations is entirely based off what abilities your enemies rolled), but you can still roll through the game after that with just a properly built Chrom + Robin pair up.
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Re: Fire emblem?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2015, 03:59:01 PM »
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The broken good character builds always felt unnecessary to me as the AI really can't handle any sort of well built Robin/Morgan at any level of difficulty, and you can't really fight other people.
You have described one of my biggest disappointments with Awakening. In Shadow Dragon you could face other players but it wwasn't possible to create awesome combos since there are no skills you can learn.

If you are looking to test your skills might I recommend Apotheosis? It's a DLC map that costs 2.50 and is arguably one of the toughest maps. I haven't tried recently but I've only completed phase one. Robin/Morgan will by no means get you through.

EDIT:
To give you a hint all the characters have dragonscales (halve all damage/negate counter lethality) and have most their stats around 60 with the higher ones ranging at 70 (excluding HP).

@Arugula: I completely forgot about Owain! He is hysterically funny and awesome to boot. I love Stahl too but he dropped from my party somewhere around chapter 15-20. I haven't experimented much with Yen'fay.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2015, 04:02:28 PM by Eragon5 »
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