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What should I expect in type 2?
« on: February 21, 2010, 09:46:00 PM »
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I am trying to make my first type two deck for a tournament this weekend. I am familiar with alot of strategies, offensive and defensive for type one. In type 1 it is not uncommon to run into large banding chains, green prophets, zeb, speed decks, the garden tomb, z's temple, sitelock, stand alone defenses, bayblonians, or phillistines, but I have no idea what exactly to expect in type 2. What are some of the most common strategies on offense and defense? Are there any staple cards for a type 2 deck.
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 09:55:20 PM »
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Aocp Aocp Aocp and maybe some Aocp did I forget Aocp?
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 10:02:08 PM »
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Aocp Aocp Aocp and maybe some Aocp did I forget Aocp?

Is that really still true? A few years ago I would have believed it, but as a deck checker for a recent T2 tournament, I don't remember actually seeing any decks with AoCP. And it's not because they're not available here, as I know that Justin has (or maybe had) 15-20 of them once upon a time.
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 10:19:01 PM »
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Dunno thats what it used to be. In California there isnt too many Type 2 Players so I dont really know lol (Kurt and Kramers im pointing at you)
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 10:47:56 PM »
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There aren't very many AoCp decks in T2 since the addition of protection Forts.  You'll find a lot of pre-block ignore, banding, choose the blocker, FBTN and play first on offense.  On defense you'll find auto-blocks (like Uzzah), horses + end the battle, banding, FBTN and cannot be negated enhancements.
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 10:49:04 PM »
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There aren't very many AoCp decks in T2 since the addition of protection Forts.  You'll find a lot of pre-block ignore, banding, choose the blocker, FBTN and play first on offense.  On defense you'll find auto-blocks (like Uzzah), horses + end the battle, banding, FBTN and cannot be negated enhancements.
You sure you arent talking about Type 1 Gabe? ::)
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 11:24:34 PM »
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There aren't very many AoCp decks in T2 since the addition of protection Forts.  You'll find a lot of pre-block ignore, banding, choose the blocker, FBTN and play first on offense.  On defense you'll find auto-blocks (like Uzzah), horses + end the battle, banding, FBTN and cannot be negated enhancements.

So I assume Wall of Protection and Darius's Decree are in alot of type 2 decks then?
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 11:44:17 PM »
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So I assume Wall of Protection and Darius's Decree are in alot of type 2 decks then?

If they aren't, they should be.  I recall hearing Tim Maly say something along the line of, "Every T2 deck should have 3 Darius' Decree'.  I don't necessarily agree with that but it does emphasise the point. ;)
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 11:45:44 PM »
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WoP is in the vast majority of T2 decks.

Darius's Decree will probably see quite some play.

CtB is huge in T2--remember to include something to stop it (best bet KotW).

Don't get overly dependent on captures as Blue Tassels is in a majority of decks.

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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2010, 11:57:47 PM »
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Also, Combo decks thrive there, you really can't prep for um but just a warning.
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 12:03:59 AM »
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Also, Combo decks thrive there, you really can't prep for um but just a warning.
Hey ive only seen a couple of Combo decks before in type 2. What are some common ones?
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2010, 12:19:15 AM »
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CtB is huge in T2--remember to include something to stop it (best bet KotW).


What are some examples of commonly used CtB cards?
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 12:23:03 AM »
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Provisions and Jacob+Obedience of Noah are the two biggies in T2, from my observation. Maybe Lamenting for Jephthah's daughter, but I don't know how common that is. King Amaziah can only be used once no matter how many copies you have, so I wouldn't think he is used very much.

One of the best anti-CtB cards is Kir. If you're worried about CtB, I would probably put a few of those in.
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 12:46:03 AM »
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Provisions and Jacob+Obedience of Noah are the two biggies in T2, from my observation. Maybe Lamenting for Jephthah's daughter, but I don't know how common that is. King Amaziah can only be used once no matter how many copies you have, so I wouldn't think he is used very much.

One of the best anti-CtB cards is Kir. If you're worried about CtB, I would probably put a few of those in.

Kir seems like a good idea as does KoW. Wouldn't Wall of Protection help against CtB also?

My next concern is pre-block ignore. What are the most common cards used for this? I am assuming tgt and hidden treasures + spiritual warfare/burning incense
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 01:45:01 AM »
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Also, Combo decks thrive there, you really can't prep for um but just a warning.
Hey ive only seen a couple of Combo decks before in type 2. What are some common ones?
One I saw (defensive) was banding from brown to pg and visa versa to spam 2kh+FH/GTrick
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Re: What should I expect in type 2?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2010, 12:43:00 AM »
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In type 1 it is not uncommon to run into large banding chains, green prophets, zeb, speed decks, the garden tomb, z's temple, sitelock, stand alone defenses, bayblonians, or phillistines, but I have no idea what exactly to expect in type 2. What are some of the most common strategies on offense and defense? Are there any staple cards for a type 2 deck.
That about sums it up for type 2. There are some combo decks, but mostly it's civilizations, cbn, and power offenses.

 


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