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Music Leader variants
« on: May 22, 2018, 04:47:29 PM »
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Music Leader variants
Forgive me, I am at the airport without my cards so I brought up the new set and the rest is memory. Just wanted to post some Music Leader variant decks for T2. I see Music Leader now being a splash hero that a lot of offenses utilize but do not revolve around. Last year at nationals it seemed like majority of the T1 decks worked around Music Leader and T2 saw a heavy dose of clay/white Music Leader. I like clay/white variants but they usually seem to lean more towards clay instead of white. Chenaniah/Joy to 24 Elders is extremely strong and I am surprised I didnít see more of it. Here is the list of (relevant) heroís that Music Elder can retrieve:
Fearless Traveler (White)
Mighty Warrior (Green/Red)
Chenaniah (white)
Music Leader (clay/white)
Asaph (white)
Barak (red)
David, the Psalmist (white/green)
David, the Shepherd (red/purple)
Isaiah (green)
Habakkuk (green)
Miriam (green)
King David (purple)
King Solomon (gold)
Moses (gold/green/white)
24 Elders (white)

Obviously solid white is the easiest route to go as you can easily draw into your enhancements, always have something to play, and can retrieve what you donít have, but thereís nothing new about that deck.

What I saw that surprised me is how much green heroís there are. I feel like green/white can easily be done which opens up a few sub-variants. Do you want to use Moses, plagues and prophets with some clay white cloud cards and Word of Christ? Prophets/musicians donít have too much enhs you can retrieve with green, just Davidís Music and Nunc Dimittis, so your main heroís to attack with would be Moses, David, the Psalmist and Chenaniah to Isaiah or Habakkuk would be good, especially if Isaiah is called and is negating all ECís/lost souls. Isaiah Moses would be a very tough 1-2 punch on heroes and having plagues and recursion would be awesome too, you just have to watch out for Moses stopping Music Leader.

Red white is similar to green white but red gets the luxury of having A Soldierís Prayer which can get out any red enhancement, and red also has Sing and Praise which is alright. I like red/white strictly in T2 because having 3x A Soldierís Prayer and getting out Music Leader early is ridiculous. Being able to search for any red enhancement with ASP while also getting out an enhancement involving music simultaneously is impressively strong and reliable. For this version I wouldnít even use Sing and Praise and I would just have strong red enhs for ASP to retrieve and do a Chenaniah to David, the Shepherd, Mighty Warrior and Barak.

Because of Clay/White having so many dual colored heroes, you can always do a martyr offense but I wonít post this because itís been done so many times. I am focusing on newer strategies or lesser used strategies. So I will focus on two rough drafts for white/red and white/green for T2 purposes. I will leave out the Moses version because that is a little more complicated to play and is situational based due to having Moses counteract Music Leader and these strategies are for maximizing Music Leader.

I also want to do a teal variant due to the Tabernacle and Solomonís Temple, but I wonít have enough time during the flight. Also, I believe you can only have one of those out at a time so I might disband this idea. So if anyone already has one, or a rough draft of one they want to post that would be awesome. I might try to work on this version during the flight off of memory because I feel like although teal doesnít have anything really music related but Tabernacle is pretty awesome.


*edit* I am about to load up so I didnít finish the green/white version so I will finish this later unless you guys want to post anything to add.
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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2018, 04:47:41 PM »
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Music Leader x2
Isaiah
David, the Psalmist
Mighty Warrior
Habakkuk
Miriam
Chenaniah x2
24 Elders x2
Asaph
Fearless Traveller x3
Justin Martyr
Polycarp

Word of Christ x2
Isaiahís Call
Joy


Music Leader x2
David, the Shepherd
Mighty Warrior
Barak
Chenaniah x2
24 elders
Justin Martyr
Polycarp
Asaph
Fearless Traveller
5 red heroes
You can go Ahimelek/Ishmaiah if you want Foreign Sword/Battle Cry, Joshua/Caleb/Rahab if you want Hailstones, King Amaziah/Valley of Salt, you can do the new giant slayers to offset the shiny new black defense, pretty much whichever way you want. I always try to include Asahel in a red offense.


Love Righteousness
Words of Encouragement x2
Magnificat
A Soldierís Prayer x3
Joy
Word of Christ x2
Hate Wickedness
Passover Hymn
Temple Dedication
Bravery of David
You can use any red enh you like here for the last 3 spots it really depends on which route you went for heroes. General good red enhs are Centurionís Proclamation, Davidís Triumph, Battle is the Lordís, Battle Cry, Counsel of Abigail or more Bravery of David. All of these are good choices as I do not feel there are enough interrupts which is why I added Gib Treaty as neutral for another ASP target.

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Gibeonite Treaty x2

You Will Remain x2
Eternal Covenant

The Tabernacle


Golden Censer
The Great White Throne
Obviously you want more artifacts for 24 elders or you can add in covenants, whatever you see fit. Music Leader constantly gets out YWR, so long as itís not removed, so this will be your main 24 elders target

Reserve (for now):
John the Apocalyptist
Blood of the Lamb
Word of their Testimony

This version is pretty straight forward. Music Leader gets out every hero but 2. Justin/Poly are in for additional Word of Christ buffer. Music Leader gets out every enh but Words of Encouragement and whatever red enhs you play but ASP gets out those. Ideally you should be able to get out a Music Leader somewhat quickly and even if you donít thatís fine, you should still be able to attack. I donít see this deck being really fast or fast enough to keep up with the faster decks in t2 so I would use Ishmaiah for the additional drawing. The red heroes that Music Leader can not retrieve David can. Ideally you should be pulling heroes out quickly which frees up your draws a bit to get to the meat of the deck or more defense while this monster fully gets going. Music Leader then gets out ASP and Word of Christ and you should be able to have any red enh you want, a negate and have Chenaniah banded to a red musician to open up your whole playbook. Pretty fun deck but is so versatile. Temple Dedication gives you a great practically CBN protect band and gets out your Golden Censer or The Great White Throne to help further set up. Golden Censer is good to stop lost souls that hurt you or artifacts and Passover Hymn gets rid of the nasty curses. Red should help supplement the lack of interrupts. Let me know what you think or how to make it better and what I missed, like I said I am in a terminal going off of memory only and the new FoM card list.
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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2018, 07:41:25 PM »
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Jesse has been abusing Music Leader with red for a couple years now. Maybe he will be willing to share any insight beyond what youíve posted.
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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2018, 07:42:25 PM »
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Were you able to do a teal variant? I am still determined to do something with Teal, though they are still lacking in a lot of ways compared to most.

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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2018, 10:17:12 PM »
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So I worked on a teal red version for about two hours and all it turned into was an awesome looking teal red deck without Music Leader. I just don't think there is enough there, let alone red doesn't need ML. Faith of Joshua/ASP and then you add in Tabernacle to recur your teal battle winners and you're set, why use another 2 colors and a hero that will only get you ASP pretty much. I'm bummed Trumpet Blast isn't music related as I get it was used defensively, but they played instruments for days prior to the wall coming down, I would argue that is related to music, I didn't see it in ORDIR though. But Trumpet Blast is a Joshua card so FoJ can get it anyway.
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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 10:25:30 PM »
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I think Sing and Praise is an underrated card, especially if you pair the offense with a defense that has CBN battle winners (Nergal+Head of Gold comes to mind).

Even so, you're exactly right about the brigades...clay, white and clay/white will always be the best offenses to use ML in because you keep the brigades limited.
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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 11:57:09 PM »
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While there definitely is the drawback of having the 2 extra brigades, Music Leader can be great in a red offense because he gets ASP which gets (and recurs) all of your GEs (not to mention YWR x 2), and David the Shepherd who gets all of your Heroes and who is critical to keep in play to make Bravery and Ahimelek CBN. I like to run 2 Music Leaders in T2 because one can get the other and both can be in play together, as well as Barak and Sing and Praise. Now that Mighty Warrior is in the house, using ML with red just went to a whole 'nother level!

Also I usually try to fit in Raising Lazarus (which ASP can get & recur) in case Music Leader (or any other Hero) is discarded. I like to keep 1 ASP in Reserve for using Covenant of Prayer to get whatever I need situationally, and then 2-3 copies in the deck. 

Music Leader is also a defensive card, intimidating opponents into not drawing/searching (especially when you're getting whatever GEs you want), so its value is really huge. I ran my red offense without it for a long time, but people kept recommending adding in the MLs and I haven't regretted it. There's even been times I've rescued souls with MLs using Sword of the Spirit! Finally, I also like to run Abram's Army with a capture defense to keep Signet Ring/Nazareth/etc. from stopping the Music Leaders.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2018, 12:04:01 AM by jesse »
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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2018, 07:50:59 AM »
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Can Chenaniah band to Mighty Warrior though?  Mighty Warrior's identifier says "Involves Music", not "Musician".
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Re: Music Leader variants
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2018, 09:45:42 AM »
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Can Chenaniah band to Mighty Warrior though?  Mighty Warrior's identifier says "Involves Music", not "Musician".

Chenaniah cannot band to him.
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