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Title: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 03, 2015, 06:04:28 PM
Neutral Cards: 21

Artifacts: 7
3      Samaritan Water Jar
1      Gifts of the Magi
1      Wash Basin
1      Temple Veil
1      Shrine to Artemetis

Lost Souls: 14


Good Cards: 42

Good Dominants: 5
1      Son of God
1      New Jerusalem
1      Angel of the Lord
1      Guardian of your Souls
1      The Holy Spirit

Covenants: 1
1      Scroll of Isaiah

Good Fortresses: 2
1      House in Bethany
1      Herod's Temple

Heroes: 15
2   The Generous Widow
2   Watchful Servant
2   Good Samaritan
1   The Woman at the Well
1   Luke (EC)
2   Paul's Disciples
1   Simon the Tanner
1   Titus (EC)
1   The Thankful Leper
1   Martha (TxP)
1   Lazarus (Di)

Good Enhancements: 19
2   Kindness (Di)
2   Meeting the Messiah
3   Repentance and Restitution
2   Faith as a Mustard Seed
3   Preaching in the Synagogue
3   Elymas Struck Blind
2   Kindness (EC)
2   Ambush the City


Evil Cards: 42

Dominants: 3
1   Falling Away
1   Christian Martyr
1   Burial

Evil Fortresses: 3
1      High Places
1      High Priest's Palace
1      Areopegus

Evil Enhancements: 18
3   Pretension
4   Balaam's Disobedience
2   Tenants Kill the Son
1   Scattered
2   Just a Hireling
1   Doctrine Like Leaven
3   Abomination of Desolation
2      Sorrow of Mary

Evil Characters: 18
2   Hard-Hearted Religious Leaders (Di)
2   Proud Pharisee
2   Pharisees - Orange Background
1   High Priest Annas
2   Saul/Paul
2   The Sanhedrin
2   Scribe
2   Stoic Philosophers
1   Antiochus IV Epiphanes
1   The Goat with Horn
1   Demetrius the Silversmith

Total Cards: 105

Any help appreciated.

EDIT - Updated
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: Nameless on January 03, 2015, 11:54:36 PM
If you changed the defense, this could be an A-bomb deck.  When I looked at the offense, that is what I thought it was.  So much drawing for the opponent.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: DrowningFish on January 04, 2015, 12:39:53 AM
Luke/Greek is an awesome combo that could be quite effective is used correctly. Especially with new Greek charecters itll be even better.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 05, 2015, 12:57:41 PM
The reason I was thinking pharisees was because I already have a lot of the cards for it. I don't have a lot of cards, so I'm kind of limited to making a deck with cards that I have or can get easily. But I'll look into greeks. I've never used them, but maybe I could get enough to do it.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 05, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
I switched it around to Greeks and Pharisees. Opinions on both offence and defense much appreciated.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: The Guardian on January 05, 2015, 04:47:15 PM
Since Priest of Zeus is unique, I would consider dropping one of him and adding an Antiochus.

I would also drop the Generous Givings since that is an optional draw for the opponent. Maybe add some Elymas Struck Blind for those.

Drop one Simon Tanner for a Martha.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 05, 2015, 07:02:47 PM
Done, plus another small change or two.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: TheJaylor on January 05, 2015, 10:57:52 PM
Covenant with Death doesn't really seem to fit too well. Sure, it's nice with Paul on offense but it really cripples your defense. Your territory-class characters suffer, and your Pretensions and even Meeting the Messiahs aren't quite as effective. Your Proud Pharisees are very important to your speed and CwD doesn't seem to for all that well anyways. I'd take that out for The Entrapping Pharisees.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 05, 2015, 11:15:37 PM
Ah yes. I originally had added it to protect the Aboms. But it would counteract the protection they would get from the stoic philosophers. So it's a bit redundant. Removed.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: The Guardian on January 06, 2015, 12:12:48 AM
Darius' Decree is a good way to protect Aboms. That's what I used in my pre-TEC Abom deck.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 06, 2015, 12:17:20 AM
I would probably have it, but I don't have one at the moment. If I can get my hands on one, I would put it in.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: everytribe on January 11, 2015, 05:17:00 PM
if you make it to the type 2 only, I can trade you anything you need or borrow it to you.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 11, 2015, 11:50:17 PM
Wow, I thin if I make it, I will at least partially take you up. I'm going to another tournament at the end of this month though, so I'd like to have most of them for that. But there's a few cards I'd add if I could have them, so if I'm there is certainly love of I can borrow a few.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: LukeChips on January 12, 2015, 09:31:41 AM
Wow, I thin if I make it, I will at least partially take you up. I'm going to another tournament at the end of this month though, so I'd like to have most of them for that. But there's a few cards I'd add if I could have them, so if I'm there is certainly love of I can borrow a few.
Do you have a trade page? Because I have almost every TEC card available!
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 12, 2015, 09:42:26 AM
Haha no. I don't have enough cards to trade, unfortunately. Essentially all of my good cards are in my deck.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: LukeChips on January 12, 2015, 09:47:58 AM
Haha no. I don't have enough cards to trade, unfortunately. Essentially all of my good cards are in my deck.
What I did to really boost my collection at the beginning was I bought a complete set of Warriors, Women, Original and Prophets. This gave me lots of "new" cards to work with and trade. However I don't think Cactus still sells those anymore. :(
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 12, 2015, 10:06:18 AM
I've been playing for 6-7 years now, I just don't play often enough to justify spending the money to bolster my collection that much.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: LukeChips on January 12, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
I've been playing for 6-7 years now, I just don't play often enough to justify spending the money to bolster my collection that much.
I have been playing for a little over a year now, my whole family loves the game! We started a playgroup over here in the Windy City!
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 14, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
Updated
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: LukeChips on January 14, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
I would take out The Holy Spirit, you don't have a lot of Fruits of the Spirit GE's.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 14, 2015, 02:16:41 PM
Hmm. Maybe. It's nice for recurring and searching for kindness.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: LukeChips on January 14, 2015, 02:27:36 PM
Hmm. Maybe. It's nice for recurring and searching for kindness.
It's not worth the Dom slot.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: redemption collector 777 on January 14, 2015, 03:14:40 PM
For your defense why not add Seized by Rioters?

A battle winner enhancement if used by Demetrius the Silversmith becomes CBN.

Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: The Guardian on January 14, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Hmm. Maybe. It's nice for recurring and searching for kindness.
It's not worth the Dom slot.

This is T2, there's no need to worry about dom slots since he can have 14 dominants if he wanted...
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: Redoubter on January 14, 2015, 04:36:28 PM
This is T2, there's no need to worry about dom slots since he can have 14 dominants if he wanted...

Agreed, but is it worth it just for Kindness?  If I'm adding THS, there better be more than 2 cards to pull out, even if I can recur them.  And there are some great fruits you can add (if Paul is going to be big in this deck, even Love is a good add).

Also, on dominants, is the lack of them due to card ownership or planning to leave them out?

Lastly, fun fact, a 100-105 T2 deck finally has to deal with the horrors of dom cap ;)  5 more dominants from I/J on now leaves us at 18, and most of them are good adds to some deck or other.

Good (9)
Angel of the Lord
Blinding Light
Glory of the Lord
Grapes of Wrath
Guardian of Your Souls
Harvest Time
New Jerusalem
Son of God
The Holy Spirit

Evil (9)
Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Doubt
Falling Away
Mayhem
Shipwreck
Strife
Vain Philosophy
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: LukeChips on January 14, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
I would add self control.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: browarod on January 14, 2015, 04:58:42 PM
Agreed, but is it worth it just for Kindness?  If I'm adding THS, there better be more than 2 cards to pull out, even if I can recur them.
The deck actually has 4 Kindness to search out (2 TEC and 2 Di). Not sure if that affects your opinion, but just wanted to point it out. :P
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: Redoubter on January 14, 2015, 05:03:13 PM
Agreed, but is it worth it just for Kindness?  If I'm adding THS, there better be more than 2 cards to pull out, even if I can recur them.
The deck actually has 4 Kindness to search out (2 TEC and 2 Di). Not sure if that affects your opinion, but just wanted to point it out. :P

Oh right he's doing the Luke thing...

I suppose it isn't wasted so much.

Also, just a note, I believe that he has the correct amount of Kindness cards if you want to mix and match, glad to see it wasn't tried to go to 4 of the Disciples and 2 of TEC.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 14, 2015, 05:38:15 PM
This is T2, there's no need to worry about dom slots since he can have 14 dominants if he wanted...
Also, on dominants, is the lack of them due to card ownership or planning to leave them out?

Ownership, unfortunately. There's many I would put in, but don't have. I had DoN, but lost it somewhere... I probably could get a Mayhem from my brother for tournaments too.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: LukeChips on January 14, 2015, 05:52:52 PM
This is T2, there's no need to worry about dom slots since he can have 14 dominants if he wanted...
Also, on dominants, is the lack of them due to card ownership or planning to leave them out?

Ownership, unfortunately. There's many I would put in, but don't have. I had DoN, but lost it somewhere... I probably could get a Mayhem from my brother for tournaments too.
Do you have a Grapes?
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 14, 2015, 06:05:57 PM
No
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: The Guardian on January 14, 2015, 06:17:51 PM
This is T2, there's no need to worry about dom slots since he can have 14 dominants if he wanted...
Also, on dominants, is the lack of them due to card ownership or planning to leave them out?

Ownership, unfortunately. There's many I would put in, but don't have. I had DoN, but lost it somewhere... I probably could get a Mayhem from my brother for tournaments too.

If you ever make it to a MN tournament, I would gladly trade you a DoN and wouldn't need much in return.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 14, 2015, 06:19:26 PM
I'm thinking about coming down for the T2 only with my brother. Depends on schedules and things though.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: The Guardian on January 14, 2015, 06:20:27 PM
If you do, I will certainly be there. Where exactly are you from?
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 14, 2015, 06:21:20 PM
Winnipeg :)
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: The Guardian on January 14, 2015, 06:24:03 PM
Nice! Have you been to one of our tournaments before? There was a guy from Canada who came to one of them last year...
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: kram1138 on January 14, 2015, 06:27:05 PM
Nope, it wasn't. It was another guy. I got in contact with him a while ago on the forums, but I haven't met him or heard from him in a while.
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: The Guardian on January 14, 2015, 06:30:07 PM
Gotcha, well I certainly hope you and your brother will be able to make it. Always great to meet new people and the T2 Only tournament is one of the best of the year!  :)
Title: Re: T2 Luke/Convert Pharisees
Post by: redemption collector 777 on January 14, 2015, 09:52:51 PM
Nope, it wasn't. It was another guy. I got in contact with him a while ago on the forums, but I haven't met him or heard from him in a while.

pm sent

thanks :)
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