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Offline KingLeo

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First time building a type 2
« on: September 13, 2012, 04:02:09 PM »
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Lost Souls: 16   #
Wanderer   2
revealer   2
Female   2
NT   2
First rounder   2
Negater   2
Preventer   2
Hopper   2

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Sites: 2   #
Ashdod   2

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Artifacts: 9   #
holy grail   1
Hez Ring   2
Unholy Writ   3
Sammaritian WJ   3

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DAEs: 2   #
Foreign Sword   2

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Dominants: 5   #
Angel of the Lord   1
SoG   1
NJ   1
Guardian   1
Grapes   1

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Fortresses: 2   #
WOP   2

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Covenants: 3   #
I am healing   3

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Heroes: 24   #
Isralite archer   4
Helez   1
Maharai   1
Abashai   1
Asheal   2
Heldai   2
Ishmaiah .G   2
Ira   3
Beneniah   3
Captian   2
the strong angel   3
Women at the well   4

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Good Enhancements: 8   #
brass serpent   1
A soilder's prayer   3
David's Bravery   2
Warrior's Spear   2

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Dominants: 5   #
Destruction of Neustahan   1
Christian Mayrter   1
Falling Away   1
Burial   1
Mayhem   1

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Fortresses: 3   #
Philly Outpost   3

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Curses: 5   #   
Rain becoms dust   2
Captured ark   3

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Evil Characters: 17   #
Goliath   4
12 finger Giant   4
Armor bearer   4
Phillistine Garrison   3
Fallen Warrior   2

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Evil Enhancements: 12   #
Bringing fear   4
Foolish advice   3
Philly Chariots   3
Joseph in prison   2

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Total:   113
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THanks for posting the calculator :)
Any advice on building OR how to play it.

Thanks, KingLeo 8)
« Last Edit: September 14, 2012, 10:32:29 AM by KingLeo »
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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 06:08:32 PM »
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First thought is take out Four Horns and Torn Mantle.  Those are Crimson and Pale Green and they discard banding heros, right?  You are going to have a hard time ever playing them with high number characters and needing Ashdod in play; additionally they will discard 14 of your 22 heros which is bad.   There are much better options for you. 

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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 06:13:57 PM »
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I'd swap the 2-Liners for Wanderer x2.
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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2012, 06:23:02 PM »
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We should probably notice how this deck is illegal first.

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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2012, 06:32:10 PM »
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You can only have up to 3 of the same artifact and I'd only recommend 1 copy of Holy Grail.  I don't see a need for Kerith Ravine in the deck.  You will no longer need Ashdod in the deck.  I think you could also take out Hopper. 

That would give you 9 open slots and I think your offense and defense could use it.  Because your offense relies heavily on having all those heros, I would probably put in a Chariots of Fire, Brass Serpent and a return capture card like I am Redemption.  I might try to fit in a Crown of Thorns and an Elijah's Mantle.

I personally don't like having so many duplicates of heros and would take out a couple duplicates for cards like Simeon, -Jacob, the Centurions.

You are missing Philistine Outpost for the defense.

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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2012, 11:58:24 PM »
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Maybe a better way to stop Nazzy also after you add Outpost? Although a quick Soldiers Prayer for spear or sword seems very good against Nazzy.

I would add Wall of Protection.

Less Uniques because Water Jars are a killer. Add 4 Samaritans and 3 Jars.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2012, 12:03:07 AM by RTSmaniac »
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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 02:19:46 AM »
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First Observations:

Too many Holy Grails (3 is the max on arts)
Foreign Sword is actually a neutral card.
Not enough evil characters- I would splash in another color to help against pre-block ignore. Add
        in a couple banding characters perhaps. Spirit of Temp would be good to get your unique
        heroes out of your hand. Perhaps cut some of the curses to make room.
Max out Isr. Archers and add some healing cards (ie. brass serpent or I am Healing).
Too many duplicates of unique heroes. Would only do 2 of Asahel, Ishmaiah, Abishai and Heldai.

Cards to Cut:

David's Might Men- great with Asahel, but I think Bravery of David is better overall
Kerith's Revine- just not that useful
Holy Grail x3- it's ability can only be used twice per game no matter now many copies you have
Torn Mantle/Four Horns- Philly Horses and Joseph in Prison are better
2-liner LS- kind of risky, sub in Wanderer LS x2

Cards to Add:

Wall of Protection- people will be banding to your offense all day, so add a WoP or maybe too
Council of Abigail x2- great battle winner with the fbtn charactes since it is cbp
Unholy Writ- I would max these out at 3
Blue Tassels- protects your heroes from those pesky writs and charms
Cent at Cap/Cent at Calvary- good abilities and access to the NT lost soul
Joseph in Prison- great battle winner
Philly Chariots and Horses- adds drawing and some initiative

P.S. I didn't look at the ratios with these adds/cuts so they are not going to be correct. Just trying to give some general suggestions and advice. I also like Clift's idea to add water jars, but i'm a bit partial to them.






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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 09:16:45 AM »
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Council of Abigail x2- great battle winner with the fbtn charactes since it is cbp
It's only CBP by an Evil card and it has to be used by an OT hero, so it wouldn't work on the Centurions.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2012, 09:20:04 AM by Red Wing »
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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 10:32:44 AM »
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UPDATE

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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 05:15:11 PM »
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Don't use all woman at the well, try some Good Samaritans.

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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2012, 01:28:36 PM »
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Out:

Ira (3 is too many)
Benaniah (see Ira)
The Strong Angel x2 (1 is enough, you will proabably end up using him the least of your fbtn guys)
The Woman at the Well x3 (she is unique, so you only really need 1 copy)

In:

The Thankful Leper
The Good Samaritain x2
Meeting the Messiah x2
The Centurion at Calvary (great character and you need some more NT guys)
The Centurion at Capernacum (see above)
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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2012, 01:52:57 PM »
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Thanks for the help up to now any more advice would be awesome and please help me get down to one hundred(IF thats a good thing.......)

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Re: First time building a type 2
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2012, 12:02:50 PM »
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playtesting is important- if u want to play a game, just lemme know.
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