Author Topic: Brown/White Musician's/Ruth (Read 1772 times)

Mr.Hiatus · « **on:** January 26, 2017, 06:54:09 PM »

The premise of this deck is for the offense and defense to always have blocks, attacks, options, get out characters, and recursion/searching. It is not down yet, it is only in testing phase and I would like to add more but it needs to stay at 100. Currently it is at 98 with no artifacts and I want artifacts obviously.

King Saul CoW
Cast into Lion's Den x2
Warning Against Rebellion x2
"Today" x2
Kinsmen's Agreement x2

The Amalekites' Slave
Medium in Endor might swap for another Lions
Doeg
Lions
Gomer
Unclean Spirit
Esau
Haman
Shimei
Complainers
The Jeering Youths
King Rehoboam x2
King Zedekiah x2
Michal x2

Treasures of War
Confusion
Korah's Rebellion x2
Shimei's Malicious Curse x2
Bad Dealings x3
Achan's Sin x3
Dungeon of Malchiah x4

Coliseum x1 I want to add 1-2 more

Falling Away/CM/Burial I need to add DoN/Mayhem

Ethan
Jeiel
Chenaniah
Asaph x2
Music Leader x2
Ruth x2
Boaz x2
Naomi x2
Elders of the City x4

Word of Christ
Gloria in Excelsis Deo
Family Bond
Undefiled x2
Kindness of Boaz x2 I want one more
Devotion of Ruth x2
Hate Wickedness x2
Ruth Meets Boaz x3
Words of Encouragement x3

You Will Remain

SoG/NJ/AotL I had Grapes and can always swap TSC for NJ, this is my third deck built, I only have TSC x2...

jesse · « **Reply #1 on:** January 26, 2017, 09:25:32 PM »

I would recommend trying to fit in: Boaz' Sandal x 3 and another You Will Remain. Also, The Throne of Grace is awesome with Coliseum. Another thought- you might run into some hand clog with duplicates of Ruth, Boaz, and Naomi, as the recursion of Ruth Heroes is so strong. Finally, I really like Joy to make CBN Boaz/Naomi banding, Chenaniah's protection CBN as well (especially because you will be running Coliseum), and keep Music Leader working through CwD/Moses.

A couple other thoughts: since you're running King Rehoboam, Strife is a great add as it's an automatic block. It can help out situationally on offense too, as you can use it to reduce your own band to get initiative. Plus, it's a great counter to Joshua-Captain.

Also, I was thinking recently about how to maximize a Ruth offense, and realized there's potential with I Am Holy. Elders of the City can recur whatever you discard, and you're reducing your opponent's options to block you (which especially is important in a battle with Coliseum out, as a lot of times it's whoever's got that last negate is who wins).

The Schaefer · « **Reply #2 on:** January 26, 2017, 11:11:31 PM »

I might reduce some of the dual aligned stuff. They're good but you might need to streamline those I'm order to fit more arts and whatnot. Also signet ring can hose you pretty hard. Might be something to consider with card choices. Seems pretty good though. Pretty fast too.

Josh · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2017, 08:18:24 AM »

Quote from: jesse on January 26, 2017, 09:25:32 PM

I would recommend trying to fit in: Boaz' Sandal x 3 and another You Will Remain. Also, The Throne of Grace is awesome with Coliseum. Another thought- you might run into some hand clog with duplicates of Ruth, Boaz, and Naomi, as the recursion of Ruth Heroes is so strong. Finally, I really like Joy to make CBN Boaz/Naomi banding, Chenaniah's protection CBN as well (especially because you will be running Coliseum), and keep Music Leader working through CwD/Moses.

A couple other thoughts: since you're running King Rehoboam, Strife is a great add as it's an automatic block. It can help out situationally on offense too, as you can use it to reduce your own band to get initiative. Plus, it's a great counter to Joshua-Captain.

Also, I was thinking recently about how to maximize a Ruth offense, and realized there's potential with I Am Holy. Elders of the City can recur whatever you discard, and you're reducing your opponent's options to block you (which especially is important in a battle with Coliseum out, as a lot of times it's whoever's got that last negate is who wins).

These are some strong points. Another thing I'd add about Joy is that as long as you play it in battle, Moses doesn't stop it even if he is in territory. His ongoing ability is a Prevent, so any enhancement that activates in battle and places in territory will "work".

I really like Elders of the City/Coliseum/The Throne of Grace.

I would definitely keep Medium in Endor in, especially if you have Complainers too. She can really mess with your opponent's attacking options.

Wickedness of the Tenants is a great Brown enhancement to consider, especially with Coliseum.

I know you are trying to keep this deck really tight, so fringe cards won't make it... But I did want to point out I Am Love. It only works against non-warrior class human ECs, but it does let you interrupt the battle, search discard for Word of Christ, and add it to battle every single battle. With Asaph, it's CBN too.

Also, just an FYI, Coliseum tosses Kinsman's Agreement.

Ironisaac · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2017, 09:52:46 AM »

Some things i would change about this if i was making it:

I might add in one or two foul spirits, who is extremely underrated in my opinion. And maybe a selfish kinsman. and i think you are right about adding in another lion; you can never have too many lions! I also highly recommend at least 2 Haman's plot and 2 gib trick. they are just so powerful, especially with coliseum.

On offense, there isn't a whole lot i would change, but i would definitely take out jeiel. i just find him to not be useful enough, even if you have all musicians. and you don't, so he will probably get discarded after one rescue. I would also take out one naomi and one boaz, as ruth is the really important one in my opinion. some things i might ad is another YWR, and maybe two i am loves, and possibly an i am holy if you decide to go heavier on the ruth stuff. i would also add in one or two covenant keepers if you do decide to go heavy on the covenants. and i would also add in one ore two faith of moses' parent's, because i am love can search and play that one as well.

Hope this helps! i really like the deck, white and brown are two of my favorite brigades!

The Guardian · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2017, 10:59:51 AM »

Foul Spirit is certainly strong, but I don't think he fits with the enhancement selection of this deck. He's much better in a deck that uses Gib Trick, Provoked and Haman's Plot. It might still be worth using 1 Foul Spirit, because the Gomer/Foul Spirit band can be pretty strong but certainly not more than that unless you adjust the enhancement mix.

Josh · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2017, 12:21:38 PM »

Quote from: Ironisaac on January 27, 2017, 09:52:46 AM

On offense, there isn't a whole lot i would change, but i would definitely take out jeiel. i just find him to not be useful enough, even if you have all musicians. and you don't, so he will probably get discarded after one rescue.

Just a quick note, Jeiel only self-discards if you have an NT hero in play. Your heroes only need to be OT to keep him from discarding.

Ironisaac · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2017, 02:12:10 PM »

Quote from: jmhartz on January 27, 2017, 12:21:38 PM

Quote from: Ironisaac on January 27, 2017, 09:52:46 AM
On offense, there isn't a whole lot i would change, but i would definitely take out jeiel. i just find him to not be useful enough, even if you have all musicians. and you don't, so he will probably get discarded after one rescue.

Just a quick note, Jeiel only self-discards if you have an NT hero in play. Your heroes only need to be OT to keep him from discarding.

Oh, sorry, i thought it was "if all of your heroes are OT Musicians..." so i guess he works. Sorry about that.

jesse · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2017, 02:23:48 PM »

Music Leader is NT though, so there's where Jeiel doesn't synergize completely. Maybe David the Psalmist would be better.

The Schaefer · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2017, 02:37:51 PM »

On the jeiel thing I agree that I don't think he's worth it. If you're still wanting an initiative hero I like Susanna. She pseudo draws you a card and if you don't like the card(s) just underdeck it. David the psalmist is awesome if you'd rather have a Musician.

Some things I noticed on looking at the deck again are defensively running 3x Achan's sin and 2x korahs rebellion might be too much. You already have alot of cards that interrupt the battle otherwise and using that many could leave your defense in some tight spots. I like gib trick considering coliseum doesn't stop it. Provoked is another great option too. Undefiled seems a little weird to me as well. I think there's better options. Another Gloria in excelsis deodorant or Passover hymn I think could be better since they involve music. Faith of Moses Parents is also another good option and even Faith of Moses if your worried artifacts. There are a lot of options here for you so cutting/adding cards really just comes down to your preferred playstyle. Just some thoughts.

Note: my phone autocorrected Deo to Deodorant and I left it cause it was just too funny to me to change.

Ironisaac · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2017, 04:17:28 PM »

Quote from: The Schaefer on January 27, 2017, 02:37:51 PM

Gloria in excelsis deodorant

sorry, i couldn't resist.
i'm to busy(lazy) to actually edit this in photoshop

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