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Abom & Hand Discard
« on: March 22, 2010, 09:17:54 AM »
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This is something I've always wanted to try, but I'm really not sure if it will be effective. The current defense looks a bit flimsy IMO. I would appreciate any advice. :)

126 Cards:

Good – 47

The Generous Widow x3
Martha
Simeon x2
The Thankful Leper
The Woman at the Well x3
  Meeting the Messiah x5
  Repentance and Restitution x3
  Sword against Sword x2
  Taking Egypt’s Wealth x3

Angel of the Harvest x5
Captain of the Host x2
Gabriel x2
  Might of Angels x2
  Striking Herod x3

I Am Holy x3

Chamber of Angels x2
House in Bethany
Wall of Protection

AotL
Grapes
SoG
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Evil – 47

Greek Philosophers
Greek Scholars
  Abomination of Desolation x4

Emperor Augustus
Emperor Galba x2
Emperor Nero x2
Emperor Otho
Emperor Vitellius
The Entrapping Pharisee
King Menahem
Lying Spirit x3
Sabbath Breaker x2
  Balaam’s Disobedience
  Gold Shield
  Heavy Taxes x5
  Namaan’s Chariot and Horses x4
  Twice Afflicted x2

Antiochus IV Epiphanes
The Winged Leopard
  Expelling the Jews

Unsuccessful x2
Unknown Nation x2

High Places x2
Rome

Burial
CM
DoN
Mayhem
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Neutral – 32

Chariot of Fire
Gifts of the Magi x2
Samaritan Water Jar x3
Three Nails x2
Unholy Writ x2

The Ends of the Earth x3

Hopper x2

FoOF Discarder x2
Shame
Female x2
CBP
Punisher
Exchanger x2
NT x2
Revealer x2
Hand Discard x2
Anti-Burial x2
« Last Edit: March 30, 2010, 01:57:21 PM by BubbleBoy »
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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 11:47:51 PM »
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Inspiration!
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2010, 07:32:56 AM »
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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 11:29:26 PM »
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The Generous Widow x3- I would do 2 of her and one more Martha
Martha
Simeon x2-
The Thankful Leper
The Woman at the Well x3- I would do 2 of her and add Good Samaritan x2
  Meeting the Messiah x5
  Repentance and Restitution x3
  Sword against Sword x2- I can see this helping but I think Battle Prayer could be used
  Taking Egypt’s Wealth x3

Angel of the Harvest x5- I think this is too much of him too, I never really see him working, I would go straight gold, or do more power with silver
Captain of the Host x2
Gabriel x2
  Might of Angels x2- Doesn't this discard all NT evil characters?
  Striking Herod x3

I Am Holy x3

Chamber of Angels x2
House in Bethany
Wall of Protection

AotL
Grapes
SoG
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Evil – 47

Greek Philosophers x2
Greek Scholars
  Abomination of Desolation x5- way way way too much! drop it to 3

Emperor Augustus
Emperor Galba x2
Emperor Nero x2
Emperor Otho
Emperor Vitellius
The Entrapping Pharisee- Switch this out for Terrifying Beast
King Menahem
Lying Spirit x2
Sabbath Breaker x2
  Balaam’s Disobedience- this is why your defense is "weak", add more of these
  Gold Shield
  Heavy Taxes x5
  Namaan’s Chariot and Horses x4
- I would take out some EC's for more evil battle winners. Also Spirit of Temptation to Galba  is very nice.
Antiochus IV Epiphanes
The Winged Leopard
  Expelling the Jews

Unsuccessful x2
Unknown Nation x2

High Places x3
Rome

Burial
CM
DoN
Mayhem
__________

Neutral – 32

Chariot of Fire
Gifts of the Magi x2
Samaritan Water Jar x3
Three Nails x2
Unholy Writ x2

The Ends of the Earth x3

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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 12:00:03 AM »
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The Generous Widow x3- I would do 2 of her and one more Martha
I like Generous Widow so much more because she not only forces drawing for Abom, but also adds to the hand d/c strategy.

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The Woman at the Well x3- I would do 2 of her and add Good Samaritan x2
But...Good Samaritan is so useless. :( I would much rather put in a Thankful Leper.

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Sword against Sword x2- I can see this helping but I think Battle Prayer could be used
I don't feel like I really need Battle Prayer in a T2 deck. I like Sword against Sword not only because it can be a battle-winner, but also because I can help the Abom theme by forcing my opponent to use Sabbath Breaker.

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Angel of the Harvest x5- I think this is too much of him too, I never really see him working, I would go straight gold, or do more power with silver
The reason I had five of him is because he is a generic angel that can both help the forced drawing theme and be used as I Am Holy fodder. The silver is a necessary strategy for this deck because of I Am Holy and Chamber of Angels. Also, Simeon + Captain is a great combo, and fits so nicely in this deck.

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Might of Angels x2- Doesn't this discard all NT evil characters?
Only EC's with a NT reference. This is a necessary card, because it gets rid of just about all demons (to which I am weak), yet it keeps almost all my EC's (most of which NT ones have extra-Biblical references) alive.

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Abomination of Desolation x5- way way way too much! drop it to 3
You know, I was thinking of reducing my Abom count, but somehow I just couldn't bring myself to it. Having an Abom in my opponent's territory at all times is necessary for my strategy. However, if my opponent has no ways of getting rid of my Aboms anyway, then I am stuck with 4 basically useless cards. I don't think I could drop it to 3, but maybe I could go 4.

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The Entrapping Pharisee- Switch this out for Terrifying Beast
I don't want to put an EC in here that discards Greeks. Also, The Entrapping Pharisee is so nice because my defense is full of NT Grey cards, and he adds to the hand d/c strategy, and he is CBN. He's even more useful than Balaam's Disobedience!

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Balaam’s Disobedience- this is why your defense is "weak", add more of these
My only concern is angels. If my opponent uses angels, then half my defense is shot. I don't want to get too dependant on cards like this, and I also would like to have a diversity. Gold Shield and Expelling the Jews can be just as if not more useful than Balaam's Disobedience.

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I would take out some EC's for more evil battle winners. Also Spirit of Temptation to Galba  is very nice.
Hm...I'm not sure about this. My battle-worthy EC count is already low for a deck this size. I probably won't add any more EC's, but I really don't think that taking any out is a good idea.

Thank you for all the advice. I will think about it and probably make a few updates in the morning. :)
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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 09:44:27 AM »
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Deck updated: I changed the defense slightly. See what you think now...
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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 01:48:27 PM »
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ban 3 nails
This is the way Lackey gave it to me. All hail the power of Lackey!

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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 01:56:44 PM »
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ban 3 nails
...Seriously? 3N and Might of Angels are like the only anti-demon cards in there. How else would I combat demons with this conversion-based offense?
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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 02:04:10 PM »
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He just doesn't want you to use it against his demons!   :)

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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 02:16:14 PM »
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Oooooh, I see. :)
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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 08:42:22 PM »
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But...Good Samaritan is so useless
A generic NT low number hero, useless?
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I don't want to put an EC in here that discards Greeks
Lol oops, that makes sense.

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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 10:04:06 PM »
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But...Good Samaritan is so useless
A generic NT low number hero, useless?
The Thankful Leper has just as good a chance - if not a better one - at getting initiative anyway. And he actually has a useful ability. However, I think the best choice of all those three is still The Woman at the Well, as she actually helps the theme of the deck.
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Re: Abom & Hand Discard
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 12:47:15 AM »
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What do you mean? The Good Samaritan has an awesome ability. It's so powerful that it's almost broken.
















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