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Yes, but he's not Tabernacle and most of the cards trigger off of Tabernacle. That's why he is in the Reserve
Quote from: h20tor on August 10, 2017, 04:44:24 PMYes, but he's not Tabernacle and most of the cards trigger off of Tabernacle. That's why he is in the ReserveAnd Melchizedek is neither, so by that reasoning you shouldn't main deck him either.
You can only get Enhancements out of the Reserve with The Tabernacle so having 3 Heroes and a site in there isn't very efficient since you can only get them with CoP. To get more Reserve access you might be better off putting Trumpet and Sword in the Reserve and putting Seventh Seal in the main deck.
RDJ would definitely fit in here along with foreign spearman and or Roman spearman you've got some great toss options to utilize for regardless of protection battle winning
Quote from: kariusvega on August 11, 2017, 01:20:15 AM RDJ would definitely fit in here along with foreign spearman and or Roman spearman you've got some great toss options to utilize for regardless of protection battle winningI'm drawing a blank on RDJ...
Quote from: h20tor on August 11, 2017, 08:39:20 AMQuote from: kariusvega on August 11, 2017, 01:20:15 AM RDJ would definitely fit in here along with foreign spearman and or Roman spearman you've got some great toss options to utilize for regardless of protection battle winningI'm drawing a blank on RDJ...Romans Destroy Jerusalem.
Quote from: Ironisaac on August 11, 2017, 08:40:47 AMQuote from: h20tor on August 11, 2017, 08:39:20 AMQuote from: kariusvega on August 11, 2017, 01:20:15 AM RDJ would definitely fit in here along with foreign spearman and or Roman spearman you've got some great toss options to utilize for regardless of protection battle winningI'm drawing a blank on RDJ...Romans Destroy Jerusalem.Wouldn't that hit my own Tabernacle?
or play Glory of the Lord to get it back
It also has something to do with the fact that I'm terrible at cutting cards, but my build uses 8 souls and 8 doms, with 57 cards. It's still fast (especially since I'm not only running both First Fruits and Pentecost, but also a Pharisee/Sadducee defense), and it uses Glory along with the usual array of doms.I'll second the recommendation to move Trumpet and Sword to reserve and run Seventh Seal instead (since that grabs both T&S and Trumpet Blast). Worst case scenario you can grab them out and use them as "good cards" for Tabernacle.I also second adding Aaron/Moses. Even with the abundance of CBP stuff, Moses, even the old version, is so strong. Also, since Mo is a musician, the Aaron/Mo band allows you to activate Tabernacle twice.I know you're running Ahimaaz already, but I'd add U&T. You have plenty of High Priests to activate it with and I've always found the knowledge indispensable.
Has anyone had experience with running CoW Moses over FBTN Moses?
Quote from: h20tor on August 11, 2017, 03:26:39 PMHas anyone had experience with running CoW Moses over FBTN Moses?Can't do it. Running CoW Moses will most likely hurt you more than the opponent since it shuts off Melk, FF, Pentecost, Zadok Anoints, etc. I can only hope one day we finally get priest Moses (Same as old FBTN Moses just as Teal/Gold instead of straight Gold). That's what this kind of deck really wants.
Quote from: Kevinthedude on August 11, 2017, 03:35:22 PMQuote from: h20tor on August 11, 2017, 03:26:39 PMHas anyone had experience with running CoW Moses over FBTN Moses?Can't do it. Running CoW Moses will most likely hurt you more than the opponent since it shuts off Melk, FF, Pentecost, Zadok Anoints, etc. I can only hope one day we finally get priest Moses (Same as old FBTN Moses just as Teal/Gold instead of straight Gold). That's what this kind of deck really wants.IIRC Moses wasn't actually a priest, so that's pretty unlikely. That said, I agree about CoW Moses - this deck runs too many TC cards, feasts, and powerful souls to run the CoW version.
Moses and Aaron were among his priests
The elders vetted the topic of Moses "priesthood" thoroughly more than once. IIRC not all translations use priest because that's not what is originally meant in the passage some use to justify an identifier in a card game. There are no plans to revist that topic again.
I figured that was the situation from the older threads I've found. A guy can dream though
Yeah, Kidron in the main deck is probably your best bet. Also, I think Aaron/Moses is too good to not have so I think some rearranging of the Heroes would be good. Probably take out Zadok for Aaron and squeeze Moses in some other way. Especially since you're running Eli's Sound Advice.I'd also switch Joshua in for Holy Unto the Lord. Since you'll only be using HUtL situationally then having it in the Reserve with easy Tabernacle access is the way to go. With no multi-brigade sites I would definitely run Ithamar, son of Aaron (I think he searches for The Tabernacle or a Tabernacle artifact) over Reverance and Awe. These days removing your opponent's discard pile is too risky. It can be sneaky if they use Covenant of Prayer early but usually you won't want to wait to get The Tabernacle out. Either Ithamar or Pentecost would be better, but Pentecost and possibly First Fruits should go in either way. Priests are too slow to not have the drawing set-asides.
Running a card for the purpose of searching out only a single card in your deck is generally inconsistent because there is a roughly 50% chance you draw them in the wrong order. Reverence and Awe gets around this problem by being able to search for Tabernacle or Ends of the Earth so it's much more likely you'll get value from it. The discard pile removal is also a may so you can just choose not to do it if they haven't used Covenant with Prayer yet.
Quote from: Kevinthedude on August 12, 2017, 11:18:35 AMRunning a card for the purpose of searching out only a single card in your deck is generally inconsistent because there is a roughly 50% chance you draw them in the wrong order. Reverence and Awe gets around this problem by being able to search for Tabernacle or Ends of the Earth so it's much more likely you'll get value from it. The discard pile removal is also a may so you can just choose not to do it if they haven't used Covenant with Prayer yet.Rev&Awe could grab Kidron Valley as well. Melchizedek and Aaron's Staff do some soul Gen without EotE. Think it would be smart to cut Mel for EotE?
My bad on Ithamar. I misremembered the ability but I do remember using him in an old Tabernacle priest deck but I think that was mostly because it used The Silver Trumpets with Ahimelek and Ithamar gives great initiative. (I think this was also back when TST was considered a Tabernacle artifact ).The only thing that comes to mind right away with your updated list is that I think you'd be better off with First Fruits in the main deck and Holy Unto the Lord in the Reserve. Holy Unto the Lord, as I mentioned before, is generally best for an end-game attack since it leaves you mostly defense-less. With CoP being your only way to get First Fruits out, I think switching those two would make your Reserve more effective. Sure, it takes out the surprise if you grab HUtL with The Tabernacle, but with the right planning it shouldn't matter much.
Ithamar actually does a little more than you think. He activates *any* artifact on Tabernacle when he enters battle. This lets you use Broken Covenant with YWR or whatever other artifact for a D3. Furthermore with his great initiative he can use Holy into the Lord after activating Bronze Laver to cycle the evil.
While I'm definitely NOT trying to reignite the debate contained in the Ithamar thread, the logician in me compels me to point out the flaw in comparing Ithamar trying to activate a non-Temple art on The Tabernacle with ET trying to play a GE whose brigade is not in battle. An actual apples-to-apples comparison would be The Tabernacle vs. Matthias (TEC). Both of these cards allow the holder to do use/hold cards they wouldn't be allowed to by game rule.In The Tabernacle's case, you can now activate a Tabernacle artifact on it, irrespective of your art pile (how arts are activated by game rule).In Matthias' case, you can now play Purple GEs on him, irrespective of his actual brigades (how enhancements are played by game rule).If granting the ability to perform a subset of game actions not normally allowed via game rule precludes you from performing any other actions comprising that broader "game action" set, then Matthias should not be able to play any GEs except those that are Purple.
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