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Offline sepjazzwarrior

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Choose the blocker +weapon
« on: January 12, 2019, 09:22:35 AM »
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If I have sword of the spirit on Ehud and choose and multi brigade ec to block, can sword discard that ec? 

If I have sword on king jehu and exchange to Ehud, can sword discard the multi brigade ec that Ehud chooses to block?

Ehud-choose and make ec to block
Sword of the spirit- negate and discard a orange or multi brigade ec
King jehu-exchage with a non royal to discard a royal ec

Offline ArmedKevin117

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Re: Choose the blocker +weapon
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 10:38:22 AM »
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I don't think so.  Weapons activate before character abilities that add a character to battle.  Thus the sword's discard happens before Ehud chooses the blocker.

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Ability Activation Order
Whenever a character (or group of characters) are played in battle:
1. Verify the rescuing/taunting/attacking/blocking/defending status of the characters in battle and
the players involved in the battle.
2. Activate all abilities in the order written on the card EXCEPT those with effects that add a
character to a battle.
3. Activate all gained abilities in the order gained EXCEPT those with effects that add a
character to a battle.
4. Activate all abilities on any equipped weapons EXCEPT those with effects that add a
character to a battle.
5. Activate all abilities with effects that add a character to the same side of battle. This includes
steps 1-5 for all new characters added to battle, in the order added.
6. Verify the begins a battle/blocked status of the characters that are/were in battle and the
players involved in the battle.
7. Activate all abilities with effects that add a character to the opposite side of battle. This
includes steps 1-7 for all new characters added to battle, in the order added.
8. Activate all abilities with side battle effects. This includes steps 1-8 for all new characters
added to a battle, in the order added.
9. Activate all pending abilities with triggered effects, following the order provided in the
definition of triggered effect abilities.

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Re: Choose the blocker +weapon
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 11:08:32 AM »
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I think the king Jehu exchange lets you kill them if they are royal though. Because of King Jehus ability.

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Re: Choose the blocker +weapon
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 02:23:58 PM »
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I think the king Jehu exchange lets you kill them if they are royal though. Because of King Jehus ability.
This is how it was ruled at Nationals but I do remember hearing some dissent about it. I believe the argument in favor of the ruling was that the exchange in Jehu's ability doesn't complete until Ehud's ability completes and the exchange is the cost for the benefit of discarding.
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Re: Choose the blocker +weapon
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 02:38:27 PM »
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So I'm assuming any weapon jehu was holding would also activate after the choose the blocker ability?

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Re: Choose the blocker +weapon
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2019, 06:09:47 PM »
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So I'm assuming any weapon jehu was holding would also activate after the choose the blocker ability?

Weapon abilities activate before character abilities that add new characters to battle.

 

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