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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #100 on: November 02, 2008, 12:12:18 PM »
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I'm having more and more of a hard time taking you seriously as your insult:discussion ratio keeps going up, but I'm going to try once more.

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just because you see no printed rule against it means that gives you permission to do so?
There is no rule that says you can use the same Hero in two consecutive Rescue attempts. There is a rule that says you cannot make two rescue attempts in the same turn. There is no rule that says you cannot table talk. There is a rule that says you cannot deny your opponent the option to shuffle your cards after a search.

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and that kind of makes my mind wander how far you would truly go in any game without table talk.
In a game without table talk, I wouldn't table talk. I only table talk in Redemption.

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lets see...PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM??? seems like, as schaef would put it, an 'obvious default' of common sense.
PRETTY MUCH ALL™ other games are based on competition. Redemption is fundamentally different in that competition--even in sanctioned official tournaments--is secondary in importance to fun and fellowship. Obviously Redemption is not the game for you and you should stop playing.
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #101 on: November 02, 2008, 02:28:54 PM »
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Okay, take a deap breath...... ah, much better. NOW post what you want to.
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #102 on: November 02, 2008, 02:49:04 PM »
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PRETTY MUCH ALL™ other games are based on competition. Redemption is fundamentally different in that competition--even in sanctioned official tournaments--is secondary in importance to fun and fellowship. Obviously Redemption is not the game for you and you should stop playing.

what you think is 'fun and fellowship' is clearly defined as cheating in any other CCG. common sense would dictate that it would naturally follow suit in Redemption as well, but maybe thinking isnt for you?

on that same measure, if 'table talk' is allowed during a match of redemption, what rule stops me from using a cell phone during a match and calling up, say...tim maly...to give me help and pointers on the current match im in? surely, by your standards, you wouldnt think that is cheating, would you? hey, im just having fun...
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #103 on: November 02, 2008, 02:57:09 PM »
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PRETTY MUCH ALL™ other games are based on competition. Redemption is fundamentally different in that competition--even in sanctioned official tournaments--is secondary in importance to fun and fellowship. Obviously Redemption is not the game for you and you should stop playing.

what you think is 'fun and fellowship' is clearly defined as cheating in any other CCG. common sense would dictate that it would naturally follow suit in Redemption as well, but maybe thinking isnt for you?

on that same measure, if 'table talk' is allowed during a match of redemption, what rule stops me from using a cell phone during a match and calling up, say...tim maly...to give me help and pointers on the current match im in? surely, by your standards, you wouldnt think that is cheating, would you? hey, im just having fun...
As long as you don't go over by the time limits in the rules, be my guest. Cept there is a rule about interfering with games, so Tim Maly would get in trouble.
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #104 on: November 02, 2008, 02:59:49 PM »
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PRETTY MUCH ALL™ other games are based on competition. Redemption is fundamentally different in that competition--even in sanctioned official tournaments--is secondary in importance to fun and fellowship. Obviously Redemption is not the game for you and you should stop playing.

what you think is 'fun and fellowship' is clearly defined as cheating in any other CCG. common sense would dictate that it would naturally follow suit in Redemption as well, but maybe thinking isnt for you?

on that same measure, if 'table talk' is allowed during a match of redemption, what rule stops me from using a cell phone during a match and calling up, say...tim maly...to give me help and pointers on the current match im in? surely, by your standards, you wouldnt think that is cheating, would you? hey, im just having fun...
As long as you don't go over by the time limits in the rules, be my guest. Cept there is a rule about interfering with games, so Tim Maly would get in trouble.

i believe there is a rule against spectators. show me the rule of using a cell phone to talk to someone for help during a match.
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #105 on: November 02, 2008, 03:01:14 PM »
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In order to be able to comment on the current match he'd have to be able to see it (Spectating).
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #106 on: November 02, 2008, 03:03:06 PM »
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no, i would be able to explain it to him over the phone. he can then comment.
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #107 on: November 02, 2008, 03:13:04 PM »
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Wow. This isn't a logical argument at all. Just drop it guys.

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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #108 on: November 02, 2008, 03:26:35 PM »
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no, i would be able to explain it to him over the phone. he can then comment.
If you can talk that quick in 30 seconds....O_o; As marti said. Sense = 0.4% which according to someone...is less than 0%.
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #109 on: November 02, 2008, 03:36:18 PM »
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no, i would be able to explain it to him over the phone. he can then comment.
If you can talk that quick in 30 seconds....O_o; As marti said. Sense = 0.4% which according to someone...is less than 0%.

somehow, they manage to do it on who wants to be a millionaire. very much possible to assess, relay, and receive comments in 30 seconds; its actually much longer, because its 30 seconds per phase/card played.

im also surprised to hear people say that it isnt logical to 'table talk' on a cell phone, yet its perfectly fine to 'table talk' in person at a match. hypocritical much? doesnt surprise me.

rr's cognitive resources = 0.4%
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #110 on: November 02, 2008, 03:39:03 PM »
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Somehow, I think WWTBAM is completely different seeing as it is a planned call.

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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #111 on: November 02, 2008, 03:41:52 PM »
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Somehow, I think WWTBAM is completely different seeing as it is a planned call.

o....k?
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #112 on: November 02, 2008, 04:11:05 PM »
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On "who wants...." they have a question with 4 answers, and even then sometimes they go over. This isn't a question with 4 answers. This is 3-4 players each with anywhere from 50 to 150 cards.
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #113 on: November 02, 2008, 04:15:24 PM »
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it's more like 50-however many josh kopp has today cards. But point made.

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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #114 on: November 02, 2008, 04:45:19 PM »
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since when did the amount of cards in deck matter when relaying a current game situation? is there anywhere near that many cards present on the table when playing a game? it honestly doesnt take more than a few seconds to ask a simple question regarding the game...

'hey, i have a lois and et, and my opponent has a kot and potw in territory. should i lead with the small lois and hope they block with a huge ec with no immunity so i can drop the aocp easily, or should i just wipe everyone out with et/aocp, and hope my opponent isnt holding another ec in hand?

if you really want to test my capabilities using a phone during a match, i'll remember to have some nationals winners on speed dial next time we play. my part time job outside of gamestop is telemarketing...do you really think 30+ seconds would not more than accomadate me?
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Re: Another tricky MP question
« Reply #115 on: November 02, 2008, 09:26:14 PM »
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