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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2019, 04:22:04 PM »
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What actually happens if you exchange Acts of Solomon for Book of Jashar?

I was trying to think through it, but I couldn't figure out what Book of Jashar copies and what cards end up where.

It duplicates Acts of Solomon, so it exchanges itself to your deck for a good enhancement and then that good enhancement activates then taken to hand. It's debatable whether Book stays in deck after that or gets taken to hand but I think only the exchange specifies deck while the take abides by default targeting (play) making Book no longer a valid take target.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2019, 04:44:11 PM »
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What actually happens if you exchange Acts of Solomon for Book of Jashar?

I was trying to think through it, but I couldn't figure out what Book of Jashar copies and what cards end up where.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2019, 04:50:50 PM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2019, 04:57:10 PM »
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Redemption: Endgame

We need a card that makes both players discard half of their cards in play, hand, and deck.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2019, 05:10:03 PM »
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Redemption: Endgame

We need a card that makes both players discard half of their cards in play, hand, and deck.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2019, 05:21:40 PM »
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We need a card that makes both players discard half of their cards in play, hand, and deck.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2019, 05:24:51 PM »
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Depending on when it's played, A New Beginning can have that effect (i.e. starting the game over with half the decks already in discard pile.)  ;D
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2019, 09:10:24 PM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2019, 09:44:12 PM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2019, 11:23:31 PM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2019, 11:32:55 AM »
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What actually happens if you exchange Acts of Solomon for Book of Jashar?

I was trying to think through it, but I couldn't figure out what Book of Jashar copies and what cards end up where.

It duplicates Acts of Solomon, so it exchanges itself to your deck for a good enhancement and then that good enhancement activates then taken to hand. It's debatable whether Book stays in deck after that or gets taken to hand but I think only the exchange specifies deck while the take abides by default targeting (play) making Book no longer a valid take target.

I don't see why that is so terribly bad. I guess you can swap Acts for Book back and forth in Type-1 indefinitely, but I don't see how you can get any huge payoff.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2019, 11:44:41 AM »
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What actually happens if you exchange Acts of Solomon for Book of Jashar?

I was trying to think through it, but I couldn't figure out what Book of Jashar copies and what cards end up where.

It duplicates Acts of Solomon, so it exchanges itself to your deck for a good enhancement and then that good enhancement activates then taken to hand. It's debatable whether Book stays in deck after that or gets taken to hand but I think only the exchange specifies deck while the take abides by default targeting (play) making Book no longer a valid take target.

I don't see why that is so terribly bad. I guess you can swap Acts for Book back and forth in Type-1 indefinitely, but I don't see how you can get any huge payoff.

Yeah I agree, I don't think it's actually worth trying to combine Acts and Book unless there's a way to exploit infinite instances of playing an enhancement and searching.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2019, 11:58:29 AM »
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What actually happens if you exchange Acts of Solomon for Book of Jashar?

I was trying to think through it, but I couldn't figure out what Book of Jashar copies and what cards end up where.

It duplicates Acts of Solomon, so it exchanges itself to your deck for a good enhancement and then that good enhancement activates then taken to hand. It's debatable whether Book stays in deck after that or gets taken to hand but I think only the exchange specifies deck while the take abides by default targeting (play) making Book no longer a valid take target.

I don't see why that is so terribly bad. I guess you can swap Acts for Book back and forth in Type-1 indefinitely, but I don't see how you can get any huge payoff.

Yeah I agree, I don't think it's actually worth trying to combine Acts and Book unless there's a way to exploit infinite instances of playing an enhancement and searching.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2019, 12:14:55 PM »
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Oh, when he said the Acts/Book combo I assumed he meant playing a different enhancement 3 times.
Play Acts, pull any other enhancement, it activates and then goes to your hand, play Book to copy the effect of the pulled enhancement since it was the last one played, then play it a third time. Could be kinda crazy, especially off something like an old Paul whose numbers have been decreased by Potter and the Clay.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2019, 08:45:55 PM »
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I think what's crazier is exchanging Acts for Battle Prayer to grab two more Acts and snow-balling it till you have 4 Acts.

Then play 4 cards 8 times.

If you can maintain initiative with multiple copies of Battle Prayer in a (side) battle, THAT gets kinda scary.

All from having only one copy of Acts.

Of the four cards you copy, make one Song of Moses and you get 10 heroes in play (disciples), and then (hopefully) use one acts to get Disciples of the Lamb for two free souls.

When you have 4 Acts in hand, the possibilities are endless.

EDIT: Heck, just play Search 8 times. Do whatever you want really.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2019, 10:59:36 PM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2019, 11:31:33 PM »
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Is it possible that Kings has the most "broken" cards?
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2019, 08:21:40 AM »
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Is it possible that Kings has the most "broken" cards?
Depends on whether torn Haman's Plot are considered broken.  If yes, then Patriarchs is the winner.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #68 on: April 30, 2019, 10:03:20 AM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #69 on: April 30, 2019, 10:26:22 AM »
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The Body of Christ was a Priests card, and that's obviously the most Broken card in the game.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #70 on: April 30, 2019, 10:49:05 AM »
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The Body of Christ was a Priests card, and that's obviously the most Broken card in the game.

Actually before Priests, The Body of Christ was a C/D starter deck card.  :o
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #71 on: April 30, 2019, 11:15:57 AM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #72 on: April 30, 2019, 12:56:49 PM »
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Reveal a blue, a red, a gold, a purple, a green, and an orange brigade enhancement from hand to banish half the cards in each location at random regardless of protection. Cannot be negated.

Limit once per game.

Needs an "If blocking" clause
Probably an "If Starlord is in play" too. :P
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #73 on: April 30, 2019, 09:18:22 PM »
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I think what's crazier is exchanging Acts for Battle Prayer to grab two more Acts and snow-balling it till you have 4 Acts.

Then play 4 cards 8 times.

If you can maintain initiative with multiple copies of Battle Prayer in a (side) battle, THAT gets kinda scary.

All from having only one copy of Acts.

Of the four cards you copy, make one Song of Moses and you get 10 heroes in play (disciples), and then (hopefully) use one acts to get Disciples of the Lamb for two free souls.

When you have 4 Acts in hand, the possibilities are endless.

EDIT: Heck, just play Search 8 times. Do whatever you want really.

^This guy knows how easy it is to break things. Add in an Emmaus Road and you got Star cards in there. NJ/Bride of Christ is also a small Hero that can play any color.

Even so, simple things like playing Samuel's Edict from deck and taking it back to hand right after seems really dumb.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #74 on: April 30, 2019, 11:58:26 PM »
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Disciples of the Lamb only works during a rescue attempt.

Use Acts to grab and play Moses and Elders twice.

Recur a second copy of Moses and Elders and anything else you want.

Next upkeep, use House of Prayer to exchange Moses and Elders for Acts.

Rinse and repeat.

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