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Acts of Solomon
« on: April 22, 2019, 01:53:53 PM »
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Randomly came across this older card that I've looked over so many times.

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According to the way this is worded right now, you would exchange TAoS for a card, activate that card's ability, then once it's ability completes, place it in your hand, correct? That seems really strong, so I just wanted to make sure I am reading that correctly. 
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2019, 02:00:58 PM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2019, 02:06:26 PM »
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if thats true then same red dragon thorn!!!!! T2 madness
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 02:32:59 PM »
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Oh.

Oh dear.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2019, 03:02:16 PM »
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2019, 03:02:42 PM »
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This.... I just can't
if that is the wording

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2019, 04:07:46 PM »
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That's so cool!  Never thought of that. 


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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 06:19:41 PM »
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First Book of Jashar, now this? How long until someone discovers that Acts of Uzziah and Book of Hozai are secretly good?
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 06:38:51 PM »
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Book of Hozai has always been good...  8)
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2019, 06:44:35 PM »
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Book of Hozai has always been good...  8)

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2019, 08:55:44 PM »
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I feel like this is one of those situations where Kirk would have fine tuned a deck that specifically abuses this, gets approval from Rob via email, tells no one and shows up to nationals and gets 3rd place, naturally, and everyone freaks out for a couple weeks.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2019, 09:14:47 PM »
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I feel like this is one of those situations where Kirk would have fine tuned a deck that specifically abuses this, gets approval from Rob via email, tells no one and shows up to nationals and gets 3rd place, naturally, and everyone freaks out for a couple weeks.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2019, 09:24:01 PM »
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Hey now, I was the last one to pull that trick (aside from e-mailing Rob), and I actually took first... ::)

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2019, 11:26:25 PM »
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It's funny because Book of Hozai actually synergizes very nicely with all of these star cards.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2019, 10:25:40 AM »
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Hey if this works when does the ability of the exchanged for enhancement happen?  Before you take it to hand or after?
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2019, 10:27:02 AM »
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For this good enhancement which is taken, it has to match brigade of the Hero in order to activate, correct?
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2019, 10:53:48 AM »
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Hey if this works when does the ability of the exchanged for enhancement happen?  Before you take it to hand or after?

It will activate as part of the exchange, as soon as it's put in play on the Hero. Then the "return to hand" ability activates.

For this good enhancement which is taken, it has to match brigade of the Hero in order to activate, correct?

Yes, it must match the Hero in order to activate. If it doesn't have a Hero of matching brigade to activate on it is immediately discarded and will not be in play as a legal target when the "return to hand" ability activates.
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2019, 12:20:33 PM »
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So basically, this creates a -4 in deck size while at the same time a +4 for recursion that doesn't involve the discard pile. (type 2)
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2019, 12:27:29 PM »
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The ORCID shows a play as that just takes it to hand after exchanging so.....
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2019, 12:49:43 PM »
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The ORCID shows a play as that just takes it to hand after exchanging so.....

So... what are you implying here?
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2019, 12:51:32 PM »
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Great find by the way, this seems really strong!
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2019, 01:34:40 PM »
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Great find by the way, this seems really strong!

Thanks, I'm not really sure how strong this is though. You either have to grab something that's cbn/i, or something that doesn't effect the initiative order in battle. you also can't use this in special inish. So, it certainly can be strong, but nothing immediately jumps out to me as incredibly strong or broken. I'd have to imagine cards that draw and search for other cards would probably be the best here, but I really have no idea what would be ideal here. 
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2019, 02:15:41 PM »
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Hang on. Don't abilities have to complete before another card can activate?
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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2019, 02:30:03 PM »
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Abilities that play cards or bring cards into battle are not complete until the ability of the card played/brought into battle is complete.

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Re: Acts of Solomon
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2019, 03:45:56 PM »
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The ORCID shows a play as that just takes it to hand after exchanging so.....

So... what are you implying here?

That is doesnt work because of
Abilities that play cards or bring cards into battle are not complete until the ability of the card played/brought into battle is complete.

I can see how there would be some confusion as to what I was implying. The play as in my mind helps eliminate the confusion of the original wording by clearly wording it as one complete action where the enhancement is taken to hand. That's basically what I was saying. Sorry I wasn't clearer on that. I don't believe it would work with the original wording either based on what Aggie posted. The play as just clarifies.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2019, 03:52:04 PM by The Schaefer »