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Offline YourMathTeacher

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Re: The problem of the Liner (or, the relevance of banning cards)
« Reply #150 on: February 23, 2018, 09:05:55 AM »
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Quote from: Sadness on February 23, 2018, 01:20:29 AM
Btw, why is the 3-liner worth more than the 2-liner? Anybody know?

Unless there has been an errata that I am unaware of, the 3-Liner says that it must be rescued by the same player twice, whereas the 2-Liner can be rescued by two different players. Therefore they have a distinct impact on scoring, which makes one more desirable than the other. That, at least, used to be the rationale.

Quote from: Master Q on February 22, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you have not been to recent Nats, right?

Is this a trick question?  ;)
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Re: The problem of the Liner (or, the relevance of banning cards)
« Reply #151 on: February 23, 2018, 09:42:20 AM »
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Quote from: Sadness on February 23, 2018, 01:20:29 AM
Btw, why is the 3-liner worth more than the 2-liner? Anybody know?

Multiplayer. A 2-liner can be rescued by multiple people while the 3-liner can't - if someone has half a three-liner, the other people at the table have one fewer soul available. It's not a hugely impactful advantage, but it's there.
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Re: The problem of the Liner (or, the relevance of banning cards)
« Reply #152 on: February 23, 2018, 10:02:14 AM »
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The biggest impact is probably TEAMS where if one player rescues half the 3 Liner, their teammate cannot use SoG to rescue the other half.
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Re: The problem of the Liner (or, the relevance of banning cards)
« Reply #153 on: February 23, 2018, 11:41:40 AM »
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I do have one memory of a T1 MP game way back in the day where I believe I was in 3rd place at my table--trailing two other people by 2 souls. On my turn I attacked for the 3 Liner (the only LS on the table) and got a tap. No one else drew a LS that round and when it got back to me I rescued and got the other half to pull into a tie. And because I was blocked, I had the opportunity to do some drawing which let me get to my dominants first and eventually get the win. That being said, there's always a bit of anxiety when you're in a 4 player game and one of your hard fought rescues is just sitting out there for anyone to take away... :o
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Re: The problem of the Liner (or, the relevance of banning cards)
« Reply #154 on: February 23, 2018, 11:50:58 AM »
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The final game of the 2014 Nats booster draft I attacked the player across from me, whose only LS at the time was the 3 Liner (there were other LS available). I had 3 LS rescued at the time. I won the battle and got a tap, ensuring no one else could grab it. I waited. His next turn he draws no other LS. I walked in for the other half, ending the game.

So, you could say that the Liner won me 2014 Nats booster. However, I would gladly and readily trade in my trophy and whatever prizes I won back then to see the Liner out of the game now. Should've been out then, as that was also the year I ran my 150 card T1 deck to abuse Gates of Hell and the 2 copies of the Liner. Of course, that was more of a joke than anything. But it was probably the least funny joke deck I've ever ran. :P
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Re: The problem of the Liner (or, the relevance of banning cards)
« Reply #155 on: February 23, 2018, 01:05:02 PM »
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Best use of the 3-Liner:  In a T2-MP game, give half to any player not named Justin.

Quote from: Master Q on February 23, 2018, 11:50:58 AM
Should've been out then, as that was also the year I ran my 150 card T1 deck to abuse Gates of Hell and the 2 copies of the Liner. Of course, that was more of a joke than anything. But it was probably the least funny joke deck I've ever ran. :P
Of course it wasn't real funny. You forgot the third copy of the Liner.
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Re: The problem of the Liner (or, the relevance of banning cards)
« Reply #156 on: February 23, 2018, 01:10:37 PM »
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Quote from: EmJayBee83 on February 23, 2018, 01:05:02 PM
Best use of the 3-Liner:  In a T2-MP game, give half to any player not named Justin.


That's okay with me...I'll rescue the other Lost Souls on the table that might actually be detrimental to me...  ;D
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