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« on: December 04, 2018, 02:31:03 PM »
Since I was allowed to create this new sub-board, I wanted to use it to also not only help new playgroup leaders but to help possibly refine current leaders methods (myself included).  Since I wrote my articles (Part 1 & Part 2) I've adjusted my tier lists based on what I felt a new group leader could/can't do.  I have made some cards harder to acquire than before, but it will also allow me to be much more generous than I had originally planned, and have been before.  So now my personal tier lists are as follows:


Tier 1 (cards that most people have way too many of):


All cards from Limited/Unlimited, Prophets, Apostles, Patriarchs, Faith of our Fathers & Rock of Ages.
Commons/Uncommons from Kings, Angel Wars & Priests.


Tier 2 ("easily acquired" cards):


Rares from Kings, Angel Wars & Priests.
Commons from Early Church, Persecuted Church, Cloud of Witnesses, Revelation of John, Fall of Man & Prophecies of Christ.
All non-ultra rares from Warriors
All cards from Women, G/H Starter Decks, I/J Starter Decks, TxP & Disciples.
All current rotation promos such as all Local, District & winners (on Cactus' tournament form) as well as all State, Regional & National promos given out all those tournaments.

Cards upgraded from the previous tier: Haman's Plot


Tier 3 ("harder to acquire" cards):


Ultra-rares from Warriors, Kings, Angel Wars & Priests.
Rares from Early Church, Persecuted Church, Cloud of Witnesses, Revelation of John, Fall of Man & Prophecies of Christ.
All A/B Starter deck (only), C/D Starter Decks, E/F Starter Decks, "non-rotation" promos.

Cards upgraded from the previous tier: 3 Liner LS, Chariot of Fire (WA), Crown of Thorns, My Lord and My God & Prosperity LS


Tier 4 ("Expensive" cards):


Older Cards: 2-Liner LS, Harvest Time (WA), Holy Grail (WA), King of Tyrus (PS), Michael (WA) & New Jerusalem (WA).

Early Church: The False Prophet, Evil Sacrifices, Peace & The god of this World.1

Persecuted Church: Awake LS.

Cloud of Witnesses: Falling Away, You Will Remain, Coliseum, Dull LS, Forsaken LS, Kinsmen's Agreement, Joshua son of Nun, Moses, Enoch, Noah, Melchizedek, Abraham, The Angel of the Winds, Nimrod the mighty, Every Man's Sword, Confusion, Paying Taxes & Treasures of War.

Revelation of John: Guardian of your Souls, Golden Censer, Image of the Beast, Covenant of Prayer, New Jerusalem / Bride of Christ, The Ends of the Earth, Babylon / The Harlot, Humble LS, Imitate LS, Behemoth, The Four Living Creatures, Not Alone, The Strong Angel, The Twenty-Four Elders, Dragon's Wrath, Abaddon the Destroyer & The Deceiver.

Fall of Man: Covet LS, Rubble and Dust & Vindicated LS.

Prophecies of Christ: Chariot of Fire, Orphans LS & Exiles LS.

Promos: Caleb, Chariot of Fire, Faithful Servant, Joshua (Settlers), Majestic Heavens, Nicolas of Antioch, Rapha of Gath, Seeker of the Lost & Soldier of God.


Tier 5 (Ultra-Rares & Nats only promos):


Older Cards: Falling Away (WO), Grapes of Wrath, King of Tyrus (WA) & Mayhem

Early Church: Love

Persecuted Church: Christ's Triumph, Silly Women & Holy Grail.

Cloud of Witnesses: Broken Covenant & Eternal Inheritance

Revelation of John: Michael, the Archangel & Red Dragon

Fall of Man: The Fall of Man, The Wages of Sin

Prophecies of Christ: The Book of the Covenant & The Emmaus Road

Promos: Glory of the Lord, Noah's Ark, The Tabernacle & Whirlwind / Everlasting Ground


Tier 6 ("Expensive" Ultra-Rares):


Babel, Destruction of Nehushtan, The Second Coming, Shipwreck & Three Woes.



*Obviously, these are just my personal opinions of what the tiers should be.  I feel this gives new playgroup leaders the best way to put all cards into a category that allows them to trade "like cards."  This also protects the new players and the playgroup leader from trading cards from one tier for cards on another tier without realizing it.  So if you have an abundance of cards and want to move them down a tier, then feel free, but I wouldn't move any cards up a tier unless the price of that cards changes.*
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 02:56:47 PM »
Now time to part two of my tier lists (really just tier 1).  So I have "officially" separated all of the cards into 5/6 tiers allowing for my players to now earn and get new/free cards.  That being said not all cards are worth playing, so I took a second step which eliminated cards that I felt weren't worth using.  For tier 2 and higher, it was simply would I ever include this card in a deck I've made for a State tournament or higher?  If the answer is no, then you probably don't need to offer it to your newer players, unless of course, you don't have enough cards to give out to be picky.  But for tier 1, I'm going to be giving all of these cards away (basically for free) so I don't have to be quite as picky and against like cards, some that wouldn't typically get used can be quite strong.  So I wanted to list my tier 1 cards that I am giving away to my playgroup and see if there is any I missed.

Dominants:

Guardian Of Your Souls
Destruction of Nehushtan

Artifacts:

Altar of Incense
Assyria’s Tribute
Blue Tassels
Burial Shroud
David's Harp
Golden Cherubim
Hidden Treasures
Holy of Holies
Household Idols
Iron Pan
Stone Pillar at Bethel
Three Nails
Unholy Writ
Wool Fleece

Covenants:

Covenant of Noah
I Am Holy
I Am Patience
I Am Salvation
Covenant of Palestine
Covenant with Adam
I Am Creator

Curses:

Carcasses
Gibeonite Curse
Plagued with Diseases
Go Into Captivity
Given Over to Egypt
Unknown Nation
Rain Becomes Dust
Unsuccessful
Madness
Covenant with Death

Dual-Alignment Cards:

King Abijam
Defenestrated!
Drawn Sword
Foreign Sword
Forest Fire
Razor
Seven Years of Famine
Seven Years of Plenty
Siegeworks

Fortresses:

Garden Tomb, The
Gates of Samaria
House in Bethany
House of Rimmon
Judge's Seat
Kingdoms of the World
Musicians' Chambers
Obadiah's Caves
Rome
Solomon's Temple (RA)
Storehouse
Stronghold in the Desert
Throne of David, The
Tower of Thebez
Wall of Protection
Zerubbabel’s Temple

Sites:

Damascus
Hormah
Roman Prison
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Banks of the Nile / Pharaoh's Court
Samaria
Canaan
Pergamum
Ashdod
Jericho
Kidron Valley
Mildewed House

Lost Souls:

Every Special Ability Lost Soul

Blue:

Abram / Abraham
Ahimaaz
Asher
Benjamin
Dan
Ehud
Helez
Jacob
Jair
Levi
Nicodemus
Philip the Evangelist
Rachel
Rebekah
Reuben
Simeon
Thomas
Timon
Zebulun

Abraham's Servant to Ur
Answer to Prayer
Book of Hozai
Buying Grain
Cup of Wrath
Forgiveness of Joseph
Jacob Buries the Foreign gods
Job Overcomes
Joseph Before Pharaoh
Numerous as the Stars
Obedience of Noah
Reuben’s Torn Clothes
Trapped in Cleverness

Gold:

Abdon
Deborah
Ehud
Eli the Priest
Elon
Generous Widow, The
Good Samaritan
Ibzan
Jair
Moses
Othniel
Thankful Leper, The
Tola
Zaccheus

Acts of Solomon, The
Battle Prayer
Convincing Miracle
Deborah’s Directive
Ehud's Dagger
Fishers of Men
Furnace of God's Wrath
New Creation, A
Plague of Flies
Repentance and Restitution
Samson's Sacrifice
Samuel's Edict
Shibboleth

Green:

Abel
Agabus
Haggai
Hosea
Hur
Isaiah (FF)
Joel
King Hezekiah
Micah
Nahum
Obadiah

Abel's Sacrifice
Benaiah Snatches a Spear
Blessings for Obedience
Creation of the World
David's Victory
Faith of David
New Beginning, A
New Priestly Duty
Provisions
Repentance
Search
Ship to Cyprus
Sword of the Lord
Swords into Plowshares
Tears for a Friend
Two Bears
Unity in Christ
Visions
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 02:57:38 PM »
Purple:

Abigail
Elders of the City
Ethiopian Treasurer
James Son of Zebedee
John
King Amaziah
King Hezekiah
King Hiram
King Jotham
King Lemuel
Magi, The
Mephibosheth
Prince Jonathan
Saint of Virtue
Widow

Authority of Christ
Drawn Out
Haman's Plot Exposed
Peace Treaty
Prosperity
Royal Parade
Testing Solomon's Wisdom
Unified Kingdom
Valley of Salt

Red:

Abishai
Adino
Ahimelek the Hittite
Amasai the Raider
Army of Simeonites
Caleb
Heldai
Ishmaiah the Gibeonite
Jephthah
Lazarus
Men of Judah
Naharai
Recruiting Officer
Uriah the Hittite

Abishai's Spear
Ambush
Baggage
Battle Cry
Battle is the Lord’s, The
Bravery of David
David's Mighty Men
Jashobeam's Spear
Power of the Cross
Warrior's Spear
Wheel within a Wheel

Silver:

Angel at Tomb
Angel of God
Angel of His Presence
Angel of the Harvest
Angel Under the Oak, The
Angel with the Secret Name
Arianna
Cherubim
Destroyer, The
Gabriel
Paladin the Fighter
Seraph
Seraph with a Live Coal

Angelic Advice
Angel's Sword
Fire, Smoke, and Sulfur
Flaming Sword
Help from Heaven
Protection of Angels
Protection of Jerusalem (FF)
Striking Herod
Swift Beings
Three Angels
Victory
Winds

Teal:

Abiathar
Ahimaaz
Ahimelech, Priest at Nob
Amariah the High Priest
Azariah the High Priest
Eleazar, son of Aaron
Eli the Priest
Eliashib the High Priest
Ezra
Hilkiah the High Priest
Ithamar, son of Aaron
Jehoiada the High Priest
Jehoram the Priest
Joiada, Son of Eliashib
Joiakim, Son of Joshua
Seraiah the High Priest
Shelemiah the Priest
Temple Priests
Zadok

Burning Incense
Fellowship Offering
Filling Zerubbabel’s Temple
Grain Offering
Guilt Offering
Jehoiada's Strength
Jordan Interrupted
Melchizedek’s Blessing
Perpetual Priesthood
Phinehas' Spear
Sin Offering

White:

Abednego (Azariah)
Asaph
Chenaniah
Daniel
Ethan
Heman
Jeiel
Maharai
Mary the Mother of James
Meshach (Mishael)
Salome
War Officer

Blessings
Bronze Cymbals
Burning Bush
Cymbals of the Levites
Fellowship
He is Risen
Joseph before Pharaoh
Lost Coin Found
Love at First Sight
Moses and Elders
No Need for Spices
Sing with Stringed Instruments
Transfiguration
Undefiled

Good Multi-Colored:

Ezekiel
Joseph
Samuel
Zechariah

Capturing Canaan
Counsel of Abigail
Gabriel meets Zecharias
Isaiah's Call
Live Coal
Lord Fights for You, The
Renewing the Covenant
Temple Dedication
Wheel Within a Wheel
Wickedness Removed

Black

Alexander
Cain
Fallen Warrior
Gibeonite Delegates
Goliath
Greek Philosophers
Greek Scholars
Herod the Great
High Priest Annas
High Priest Caiaphas
High Priest's Maid
King Amon
Malchus
Manasseh
Philistine Armor Bearer
Philistine Priests
Sadducees (4 Men)
Sadducees (Ear Scratch)
Sadducees (Group)
Shechem
Simon the Magician
Sisera
Twelve-Fingered Giant, The
Woman of Thebez, The

Abomination of Desolation
Babel
Bringing Fear
Displeased Philistines
Fortify Site
Gibeonite Trickery
Hunger
Hypocrisy
Joseph in Prison
Net
Political Savvy
Stone of Thebez
Worship of Milcom


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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 02:58:01 PM »
Brown:

Angry Mob
Complainers
Esau
Haman
Jeering Youths, The
King Ahab
King Jehoash
King Jeroboam I
King Joram
King Nadab
King Omri
King Saul
King Zedekiah
Persian Presidents
Uzzah
Zeresh
Zimri, son of Salu

Breaking Jerusalem's Wall
Broken Cisterns
Chemosh
Crucify Him
Dungeon of Malchiah
Gibeonite Trickery
Great Mourning
Ignorance
Jeroboam's Idolatry
Korah's Rebellion
Land Purchase
Retreat
Shimei's Malicious Curse
Stiff-Necked
Wickedness Abounds
Zeresh Advises Haman

Crimson:

Abijah, son of Samuel
Ananias
Archers of Kedar
Arioch
Ashpenaz
Babylonian Soldiers
Imperial Guard, The
King Belshazzar
King Rehoboam
King Zimri
Leviathan
Nebushasban
Nebuzaradan
Nergalsharezer
Panic Demon
Possessing Demon
Seven Sons of Sceva

Belshazzar’s Banquet
Carried into Exile
Christian Suing Another
Desecrate the Temple
Dream
Escape
Great Image
Head of Gold
Midianite Attack
Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
Sarah's Jealousy
Swift Horses
Wages of Sin, The

Gold:

Dreaming Pharaoh, The
Egyptian Archer
Egyptian Warden
Egyptian Wise Men
Emperor Claudius
Herodias
Huge Egyptian
Jambres
Jannes
Panic Demon
Pharaoh's Baker
Pharaoh's Cupbearer
Pharaoh's Magicians
Potiphar
Potiphera, Priest of On
Queen Tahpenes

Besieging the City
Denial of Christ
Egyptian Horses
Egyptian Spear
Joseph's Brothers' Scheme
Lies
Moses kills Egyptian
Pagan Sacrifices
Ruthless
Take as a Slave
Troops Discharged
Wonders Forgotten

Gray:

Elymas (Bar-Jesus) the Sorcerer
Emperor Galba
Emperor Nero
Emperor Otho
Emperor Vitellius
False Priests
High Priest Annas
King Ben-Hadad I
King Cushan-Rishathaim
King Hazael
King Menahem
King Rezin
Leper
Naaman
Panic Demon
Pharisees (John Reference)
Pharisees (Brown Border)
Pharisees (Red Border)
Sabbath Breaker
Saul / Paul
Strong Force, The
Syrian Archer

Balaam's Disobedience
Bearing Bad News
Begging for Grain
Dart
False Peace
Fearfulness
Gold Shield
Healing of Naaman
Heavy Taxes
Israel Pays Tribute
Momentum Change
Naaman’s Chariot and Horses
Night Raid
Persistent Pestering
Rezon Arises
Snare
Stolen Blessing
Sword
Syrian Victory
Twice Afflicted

Orange:

Deceiving Spirit
Demon behind the Idol
Evil Angel
Evil Spawn
Fallen Angel
Mary’s Seven Demons
Prince of Tyrus
Seizing Spirit
Seven Wicked Spirits
Thief, The
Trembling Demon

Deafening Spirit
Evil Armor
Following Demons
Poison of Dragons
Pride in Position
Pride in the Past
Sinning Hand
Two Possessed by Demons
Worshipping Demons

Pale Green:

Assyrian Archer
Assyrian Siege Army
Assyrian Spoilers, The
Assyrian Survivor
Controlling Demon
Hophni, son of Eli
King Asnappar
King Tiglath Pileser III
Messenger of Satan
Panic Demon
Pashur the Priest
Phinehas, son of Eli
Rabsaris, The
Rabshakeh, The
Spirit of Doubt
Tartan, The

Achan's Sin
Captured by Assyria
Confusion
Death of Unrighteous
Disobedience
Disuading Speech
Forgotten History
Infectious Disease
Pierced Heart
Rabsaris Attacks, The
Rabshakeh Attacks, The
Stocks
Two Thousand Horses

Evil Multi-Colored:

Abimelech
Amalekites' Slave, The
Antiochus IV Epiphanes
Bear, The
Egyptian Magicians
Foreign Spearman
Foreign Wives
Jezebel
Terrifying Beast, The
Winged Leopard, The
Winged Lion, The

Expelling the Jews
Invoking Terror
Just a Hireling
Prisoner Transfer
Romans Destroy Jerusalem
Sanhedrin
Scattered

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Re: My Personal Tier List
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 03:02:44 PM »
So I posted these to do two things.  To have other playgroup leaders see what they think about this and modify it based on their collections, budgets, and players.  I also wanted to see what other people's opinions of my tiers and card selections are.  Again, when it comes to tier 1, I'm giving all of these cards away for free so I'm not looking for reasons why I shouldn't include a certain card as much as I am did I miss a card that should be included.

If people are interested I would be glad to list the cards I didn't include in my higher level tiers, but I feel that is more based on your tournament experience and collections.

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Re: My Personal Tier List
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 03:31:56 PM »
I can see you put a lot of work into these lists - thanks for sharing! One suggestion I have is to clearly label what each one's purpose is, because at least to me that's not immediately clear. Something like, "GUIDE FOR GIVING AWAY CARDS TO YOUR PLAYGROUP" or "CARDS TO GIVE AWAY" / "CARDS TO NOT GIVE AWAY".

Also, regarding the lists themselves, where would you put Alternate Border cards and National Winner promos?
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Re: My Personal Tier List
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2018, 04:26:20 PM »
I can see you put a lot of work into these lists - thanks for sharing! One suggestion I have is to clearly label what each one's purpose is, because at least to me that's not immediately clear. Something like, "GUIDE FOR GIVING AWAY CARDS TO YOUR PLAYGROUP" or "CARDS TO GIVE AWAY" / "CARDS TO NOT GIVE AWAY".

Also, regarding the lists themselves, where would you put Alternate Border cards and National Winner promos?

So I need clarification on the cards to give away and cards not to give away part.  I'm assuming you are asking something along the lines of how do I know either what I intend to give away or maybe don't give these away because they aren't good / I don't have enough to do that.

For the AB and National winner promos.  National winner promos go in tier 6, and AB cards would be a mixture.  Commons would probably start in Tier 3, and then move up the next group (rares to 4, ultra-rares to 5) then also move up a tier if they were moved up for the non-AB version.  The reason I didn't put these in my original tier list is that (most) playgroup leaders aren't going to ever have these to possibly give away or trade to their players.

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Re: My Personal Tier List
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2018, 04:41:52 PM »
Gotcha about the AB & winner promos. I think though it still may be helpful to add in, just in case. Also, I think that your first list of the 6 tiers also serves as a helpful guide for everyone for trading.

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So I need clarification on the cards to give away and cards not to give away part.  I'm assuming you are asking something along the lines of how do I know either what I intend to give away or maybe don't give these away because they aren't good / I don't have enough to do that.

I just think it would be helpful to have title labels on your lists that clearly and succinctly state their purpose.
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Re: My Personal Tier List
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2018, 05:45:41 PM »
Gotcha about the AB & winner promos. I think though it still may be helpful to add in, just in case. Also, I think that your first list of the 6 tiers also serves as a helpful guide for everyone for trading.

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So I need clarification on the cards to give away and cards not to give away part.  I'm assuming you are asking something along the lines of how do I know either what I intend to give away or maybe don't give these away because they aren't good / I don't have enough to do that.

I just think it would be helpful to have title labels on your lists that clearly and succinctly state their purpose.

I will add the AB stuff and once I post all of my info (which is a lot), I’ll bring it all together in one post explaining all of it!

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Re: My Personal Tier List
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2018, 10:43:13 AM »
The tier idea is great, but the question I have is for a structure like this, how many cards do you keep on hand?

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2018, 10:43:15 PM »
The tier idea is great, but the question I have is for a structure like this, how many cards do you keep on hand?

So I keep 3 of every card in a binder for my players to pick from.  This gives me enough that multiple people can have access to a card, but not enough that is too difficult to replace (except URs, which I don’t just give away they have to trade other URs for).

 

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