Author Topic: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates (Read 12819 times)

New Raven BR · « **Reply #75 on:** March 08, 2012, 05:07:03 PM »

INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!!

cdbany · « **Reply #76 on:** March 08, 2012, 05:33:13 PM »

I am also on a Mission Trip during the July dates and will only be able to attend if it is on the August dates. Hoping to carpool with other Minnesotans if it is in fact on the August dates.

2 notes for August:
the August dates are actually earlier than the dates of the last 2 Nationals

The 2nd full week of August doesn't start until the 12th which is afterwards.

thanks
in Him
Chris

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #77 on:** March 09, 2012, 08:35:07 AM »

well I hope it will be in the august date so I can see Chris Bany and Prof. Alstad at NATS.

Red · « **Reply #78 on:** March 09, 2012, 09:09:17 AM »

No one understands why the july dates are truly better. Kids are still out of school on the july dates. By the ninth most kids will be going back to school or already be back. And I also have something I would be willing to miss but do not want to miss on the 10th.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #79 on:** March 09, 2012, 09:30:13 AM »

My school doesn't start until the very end of August...

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #80 on:** March 09, 2012, 09:57:41 AM »

Quote from: Red on March 09, 2012, 09:09:17 AM

No one understands why the july dates are truly better. Kids are still out of school on the july dates. By the ninth most kids will be going back to school or already be back. And I also have something I would be willing to miss but do not want to miss on the 10th.

I assure you that you don't understand the school system than myself, the numerous other teens and young adults on the boards, and indeed, not more than the handful of educators we have on the boards. You're simply not more well-read than all of us on this. Furthermore, more schools don't start back until the third or fourth week in August, and most colleges don't start until the fourth week. I know that early school times generally take place towards the south, and the earliest I ever encountered school starting was the last week of July in Arizona, however, these incidents are very few and far between. In general, your "statistics" are simply wrong.

At any rate, glad to see the August date getting more and more support.

Red · « **Reply #81 on:** March 09, 2012, 10:17:39 AM »

Most schools in your areas mayhaps. In the south school starts around the first or second week of august. I do not like it when people start talking to me about my area as if they know more. You don't know more about the south. So stop acting like it.

soul seeker · « **Reply #82 on:** March 09, 2012, 10:21:13 AM »

Quote from: soul seeker on March 07, 2012, 11:35:25 AM

So...um...."Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels." (2 Tim. 2:23)

Seems like a reminder could be useful here.

browarod · « **Reply #83 on:** March 09, 2012, 10:25:11 AM »

My schools (both K-12 and college) have never started before September.

I can't afford to travel to TN, though, so I won't be voting as I can't make the date no matter when it is.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #84 on:** March 09, 2012, 11:19:49 AM »

Quote from: Red on March 09, 2012, 10:17:39 AM

Most schools in your areas mayhaps. In the south school starts around the first or second week of august. I do not like it when people start talking to me about my area as if they know more. You don't know more about the south. So stop acting like it.

He's not talking about your area or the south specifically. He's talking about the nation. Schools in Northern-midwestern states most often do not start until last week of August-first week of September, and schools in western states often don't start until the third or fourth week in September. When you say "most kids" it is you who is excluding the majority of the country's population which lives north of the Mason-Dixon line; he was the one who conceded the point that often schools in the south do start earlier.

Yes, it is unfortunate that if Nationals is in August, then many people won't be able to attend for school or various reasons. However, many others also won't be able to attend if it is in July. That happens every year, and the tournament has been held in the first or second week of August ever since 2005.

lp670sv · « **Reply #85 on:** March 09, 2012, 11:29:33 AM »

Since Nats is in the South, the school start dates of the south are weighted. However I can see both sides of this.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #86 on:** March 09, 2012, 12:57:19 PM »

If nats does end up being held on the August date, one option that may boost attendance is to have T1-2P on the last day (Saturday). I know that would go against previous schedules and would make the first two days "fluff" days and would make it a bit more difficult for travelers to get home before Sunday, but it would allow those in school to join the main event, if that group is really large enough.

Red · « **Reply #87 on:** March 09, 2012, 01:01:02 PM »

T1-2P on saturday would make it where I could not attend and play t1-2p.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #88 on:** March 09, 2012, 01:57:27 PM »

Quote from: browarod on March 09, 2012, 10:25:11 AM

I can't afford to travel to TN, though, so I won't be voting as I can't make the date no matter when it is.

POOL PARTY! Carpool, that is...

Quote from: Red on March 09, 2012, 09:09:17 AM

No one understands why the july dates are truly better. Kids are still out of school on the july dates. By the ninth most kids will be going back to school or already be back. And I also have something I would be willing to miss but do not want to miss on the 10th.

If more people (kids included) are going to be gone in August than in July, so be it, but apparently there are a lot of adults and kids who can't make it to the July but can make it to August. That's kinda the purpose of this poll.

LordZardeck · « **Reply #89 on:** March 09, 2012, 02:03:30 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 09, 2012, 09:57:41 AM

Quote from: Red on March 09, 2012, 09:09:17 AM
No one understands why the july dates are truly better. Kids are still out of school on the july dates. By the ninth most kids will be going back to school or already be back. And I also have something I would be willing to miss but do not want to miss on the 10th.

I assure you that you don't understand the school system than myself, the numerous other teens and young adults on the boards, and indeed, not more than the handful of educators we have on the boards. You're simply not more well-read than all of us on this. Furthermore, more schools don't start back until the third or fourth week in August, and most colleges don't start until the fourth week. I know that early school times generally take place towards the south, and the earliest I ever encountered school starting was the last week of July in Arizona, however, these incidents are very few and far between. In general, your "statistics" are simply wrong.

At any rate, glad to see the August date getting more and more support.

Most colleges and universities around here start around the beginning of the first or second week of august. Of course we are just a bunch of backward hillbillies to the eastern culture ;-)

My biggest question is this: Why not make it a date before 90% or more of colleges start. If you made plans for that week, that means nationals wasn't more important. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

lp670sv · « **Reply #90 on:** March 09, 2012, 02:06:00 PM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on March 09, 2012, 12:57:19 PM

If nats does end up being held on the August date, one option that may boost attendance is to have T1-2P on the last day (Saturday). I know that would go against previous schedules and would make the first two days "fluff" days and would make it a bit more difficult for travelers to get home before Sunday, but it would allow those in school to join the main event, if that group is really large enough.

This wouldn't really solve the problem, I think that the schools that are starting are starting the week after Nats (so Nats would be held when people would be packing/moving in and you really can't do it) As it stands they might be able to attend Friday but saturday is pushing it. Freshman usually move in Friday or Saturday, Upperclassmen on Sunday, so Moving the biggest event to Saturday would just make things worse. However it was a good thought

CactusRob · « **Reply #91 on:** March 09, 2012, 02:41:57 PM »

I am letting the poll play out. So, don't give up if you are pushing for July dates. Nevertheless, I am leaning toward August. Here are talking points:

TN public schools start Aug 6th. But, Aquinas College in Nashville where my son Scott attends starts back Aug 25th.
GA public schools start Aug 13th.
KY public schools start Aug 15th.
NC public schools start Aug 27th.

As has been cited, recent nationals have been held around the proposed August dates and that has worked fairly well.

Two people that I have come to rely on at Nationals, Chris Bany and Bryon Hake, cannot attend the tournament if we hold it in July. Both can attend if we hold it in Aug.

Most players like to see the new card set released at Nationals. I have just barely been able to meet that schedule in recent years. If we hold Nationals two to three weeks sooner, it will be less likely that I will be able to get the new cards in time for Nationals. I will try but ....

Nationals two to three weeks earlier also squeezes hosts to get in their state and regional events much sooner.

Again, I am not killing the option of July. I just want people to understand that there are more difficulties (at least for me) if we hold it in July.

To be candid, what I have really been watching for is an overwhelming majority of people that can only come in July, not in August - people like Brad Coverdale who I would like to give the opportunity to come if I can. But, at some point I have to choose. I hope the above is helpful in understanding what is going into my decision.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #92 on:** March 09, 2012, 03:24:22 PM »

Thank you for the update, Rob. I understand your struggle, trying to balance it out so the most people can come, and I think it's good that it looks like the table is leaning towards the direction that makes it easiest for you to handle.

LordZardeck · « **Reply #93 on:** March 09, 2012, 03:47:18 PM »

Quote from: CactusRob on March 09, 2012, 02:41:57 PM

I am letting the poll play out. So, don't give up if you are pushing for July dates. Nevertheless, I am leaning toward August. Here are talking points:

TN public schools start Aug 6th. But, Aquinas College in Nashville where my son Scott attends starts back Aug 25th.
GA public schools start Aug 13th.
KY public schools start Aug 15th.
NC public schools start Aug 27th.

As has been cited, recent nationals have been held around the proposed August dates and that has worked fairly well.

Two people that I have come to rely on at Nationals, Chris Bany and Bryon Hake, cannot attend the tournament if we hold it in July. Both can attend if we hold it in Aug.

Most players like to see the new card set released at Nationals. I have just barely been able to meet that schedule in recent years. If we hold Nationals two to three weeks sooner, it will be less likely that I will be able to get the new cards in time for Nationals. I will try but ....

Nationals two to three weeks earlier also squeezes hosts to get in their state and regional events much sooner.

Again, I am not killing the option of July. I just want people to understand that there are more difficulties (at least for me) if we hold it in July.

To be candid, what I have really been watching for is an overwhelming majority of people that can only come in July, not in August - people like Brad Coverdale who I would like to give the opportunity to come if I can. But, at some point I have to choose. I hope the above is helpful in understanding what is going into my decision.

I want to see the new cards more than I care about going. Can I change my date to august?

But in all seriousness, you probably shouldn't count my vote for july in the decision. While I would love to go, and the July date would really help my chances, I may not be able to raise the money for the trip.

TechnoEthicist · « **Reply #94 on:** March 09, 2012, 03:58:47 PM »

Eh Rob, there's always next year

. By then God willing I'll be done with coursework and working on the dissertation...Dr. Coverdale is in sight...even though it seems miles away at times...Thanks again for your openness, sincerity, and generosity. This game wouldn't be what it is without you (even if you did create it

).

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #95 on:** March 13, 2012, 05:10:43 AM »

This is the last morning to vote, please do!

CactusRob · « **Reply #96 on:** March 15, 2012, 09:51:04 AM »

This is to confirm that Nationals will be held Aug 9-11, 2012 in Knoxville, TN hosted by Chris Fachman at his church. More details to come soon.

Thank you to everyone who participated in the poll.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #97 on:** March 26, 2012, 12:01:25 PM »

Quote from: CactusRob on March 15, 2012, 09:51:04 AM

This is to confirm that Nationals will be held Aug 9-11, 2012 in Knoxville, TN hosted by Chris Fachman at his church. More details to come soon.

Thank you to everyone who participated in the poll.

Mr. Anderson, on behalf of all of us in the great state of TN i would like to thank you so much for allowing Nationals to be held in TN this year

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