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Anyone else feel that teams events should have double-prizes?
« on: October 25, 2010, 12:13:45 PM »
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I've played teams events in tournaments for a while now, and I've become frustrated that the winners have to split the prizes between them.  I know this is because the team pays only one entry fee for two players, so splitting the prize makes sense in these cases.

But I'm wondering if tournament hosts also have the option of making partners each pay the full entry fee, and then both the winners will get the full prize?  (The downside of this though is that it becomes more expensive to play and lose :( )

Here's an example.  If we have a local tournament where the entry fee is $6 but you get to play in all 4 events, this is a pretty good deal to a player participating in all 4.  But if, because of judging events, I were to participate in only the teams event, I'd pay the $3 (half of the fee) to get $4.50 Redemption cash IF we win first place?  And then we have to decide which of us gets the one prize card too?

I guess I'm just wondering how others do it, and if getting double-prizes for the teams winners is an option if everyone is paying the full entry fee for the event.  Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 01:14:59 PM »
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Though I don't play teams, I think both teammates should get the first place promo (and still split the boosters/cash).

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 01:40:03 PM »
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If the prize output is increased, then so would the cost for hosting the category. Cactus still needs to be making a profit somehow in order for the game to continue production.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 02:47:03 PM »
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If the prize output is increased, then so would the cost for hosting the category. Cactus still needs to be making a profit somehow in order for the game to continue production.
That's all fine and dandy, but try splitting an odd number of packs/cards and you can see the issue. If not double, can it at least be made even numbers across the board?

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 03:59:43 PM »
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If the prize output is increased, then so would the cost for hosting the category. Cactus still needs to be making a profit somehow in order for the game to continue production.
That's all fine and dandy, but try splitting an odd number of packs/cards and you can see the issue. If not double, can it at least be made even numbers across the board?
Wonderfully put, which helps explain some of the problem.  Two players cannot split one "Victory card", nor can they divide 3 packs or a $9 Redemption Cash certificate.  Why not increase packs to an even number, and increase Redemption cash to something like $10, and send TWO $5 certificates?  Otherwise my partner and I have to work out who is going to give the other cash to buy out their share of the Redemption Cash.  It is VERY inconvenient.  If we want this type of event to see a lot of play, as I do because I enjoy it quite a bit, let's take away those things that discourage players from participating in it.

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 04:27:50 PM »
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If the prize output is increased, then so would the cost for hosting the category. Cactus still needs to be making a profit somehow in order for the game to continue production.
That's all fine and dandy, but try splitting an odd number of packs/cards and you can see the issue. If not double, can it at least be made even numbers across the board?
Wonderfully put, which helps explain some of the problem.  Two players cannot split one "Victory card", nor can they divide 3 packs or a $9 Redemption Cash certificate.  Why not increase packs to an even number, and increase Redemption cash to something like $10, and send TWO $5 certificates?  Otherwise my partner and I have to work out who is going to give the other cash to buy out their share of the Redemption Cash.  It is VERY inconvenient.  If we want this type of event to see a lot of play, as I do because I enjoy it quite a bit, let's take away those things that discourage players from participating in it.
Because that would be more expensive.

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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 04:30:06 PM »
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Cactus should give out $1 less (and make it 2 $4s) and only give out bad random TXPs (like Large Tree) so neither wants it.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 04:35:30 PM »
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In most tournaments I have been at, one person takes the "winner card" and the other person gets the 1 extra pack.  Everyone has seemed pretty happy with that arrangement.

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2010, 04:38:03 PM »
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In most tournaments I have been at, one person takes the "winner card" and the other person gets the 1 extra pack.  Everyone has seemed pretty happy with that arrangement.
But both Sauce and I have over 9000 winner cards. We might not have over 9000 of the rare in the pack. What's going to happen when we win with our Noah decks in Teams?

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Re: Anyone else feel that teams events should have double-prizes?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 05:30:28 PM »
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What's going to happen when we win with our Noah decks in Teams?

The world will end.
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Re: Anyone else feel that teams events should have double-prizes?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 06:34:03 PM »
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What's going to happen when we win with our Noah decks in Teams?

The world will end.

...by a landslide....





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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 07:30:01 PM »
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Re: Anyone else feel that teams events should have double-prizes?
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 01:29:49 AM »
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+1 w/ Prof U.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2010, 09:57:05 AM »
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What's going to happen when we win with our Noah decks in Teams?

The world will end.
+1 w/ Prof U.
That's two elders who rule that the world will end when Sauce and I win with Noah deck in Teams.

I guess we'll wait for 2012.

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2010, 03:29:34 PM »
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The Mayans must really hate me.... I graduate in 2012....

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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2010, 03:39:34 PM »
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I agreed with Prof U. not Prof A.  8)
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2010, 03:42:09 PM »
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What's going to happen when we win with our Noah decks in Teams?

The world will end.
+1 w/ Prof U.
That's two elders who rule that the world will end when Sauce and I win with Noah deck in Teams.

I guess we'll wait for 2012.

Prof U =/= Prof A. One is smarter and way better looking than the other. Out of my great humility, I will refrain from specifying which one, so as to avoid hurting Mark's feelings.  ;)

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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2010, 03:48:50 PM »
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Your "I Agree" sign pointed to Prof A. Therefore you agree with him. This is undeniable.


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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2010, 04:49:32 PM »
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Prof U =/= Prof A. One is smarter and way better looking than the other. Out of my great humility, I will refrain from specifying which one, so as to avoid hurting Mark's feelings.  ;)
It's alright, I'm fine with you being better looking.  And I'll refrain from pointing out who can decimate the other in competitions of the mind (Tetris/LOTR Risk/Diplomacy/Star Wars Epic Duels/Twixt/Fortress America/Ticket to Ride) and body (Tetherball/Fussball/Jenga). :)

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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2010, 05:22:27 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2010, 05:29:40 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2010, 05:30:30 PM »
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Wouldn't it be Prof U U, then? Prof Uber Underwood.

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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2010, 05:32:48 PM »
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woody shrubs or small trees growing among taller trees.
2.
a clump or stretch of such growth.

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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2010, 05:33:57 PM »
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All I can say is P. U.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2010, 05:36:23 PM »
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Did somebody say something about an uber shrubbery?

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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2010, 05:40:08 PM »
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Did somebody say something about an uber shrubbery?

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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2010, 05:43:55 PM »
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Prof U =/= Prof A. One is smarter and way better looking than the other. Out of my great humility, I will refrain from specifying which one, so as to avoid hurting Mark's feelings.  ;)
It's alright, I'm fine with you being better looking.  And I'll refrain from pointing out who can decimate the other in competitions of the mind (Tetris/LOTR Risk/Diplomacy/Star Wars Epic Duels/Twixt/Fortress America/Ticket to Ride) and body (Tetherball/Fussball/Jenga). :)

I don't even know what Diplomacy through Ticket to Ride are (except Twixt, which I have played a few times), so those don't count. Risk of any kind is nearly impossible to determine who is better based on a 2-player match, the winner is almost completely determined by who goes first (I realized this when my then 8 year-old brother swept the rest of the family in 2-player games, including my dad who has played Risk for thirty years). Tetris I'll give you, as your reputation is well established here, and Twixt I couldn't be sure on. However, when it comes to Scrabble, Chess, Checkers, or Cribbage, I would venture to say that I would have the upper hand. Trivial Pursuit might be a toss-up, depending on the questions we each got.

I probably have the disadvantage at tetherball, mostly because I was homeschooled during my elementary years and never had recess. I used to play Foosball (the CORRECT spelling of the game, fyi; I'm not sure what "Fussball" is) quite a bit, but I haven't in awhile so you might have me there too. I will admit my coordination and steadiness of hand is not great, so I wouldn't be surprised if you would best me in Jenga.

Back to Twixt, is there anyway to play that online? I'd be interested to find out, as my parents have it, but I have only played it a few times. Also, we are Facebook friends, so if you ever want to know the real meaning of being humbled, I'll challenge you to a game of Scrabble.  ;)

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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2010, 07:02:27 PM »
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Prof U =/= Prof A. One is smarter and way better looking than the other. Out of my great humility, I will refrain from specifying which one, so as to avoid hurting Mark's feelings.  ;)
It's alright, I'm fine with you being better looking.  And I'll refrain from pointing out who can decimate the other in competitions of the mind (Tetris/LOTR Risk/Diplomacy/Star Wars Epic Duels/Twixt/Fortress America/Ticket to Ride) and body (Tetherball/Fussball/Jenga). :)

I don't even know what Diplomacy through Ticket to Ride are (except Twixt, which I have played a few times), so those don't count. Risk of any kind is nearly impossible to determine who is better based on a 2-player match, the winner is almost completely determined by who goes first (I realized this when my then 8 year-old brother swept the rest of the family in 2-player games, including my dad who has played Risk for thirty years). Tetris I'll give you, as your reputation is well established here, and Twixt I couldn't be sure on. However, when it comes to Scrabble, Chess, Checkers, or Cribbage, I would venture to say that I would have the upper hand. Trivial Pursuit might be a toss-up, depending on the questions we each got.

I probably have the disadvantage at tetherball, mostly because I was homeschooled during my elementary years and never had recess. I used to play Foosball (the CORRECT spelling of the game, fyi; I'm not sure what "Fussball" is) quite a bit, but I haven't in awhile so you might have me there too. I will admit my coordination and steadiness of hand is not great, so I wouldn't be surprised if you would best me in Jenga.

Back to Twixt, is there anyway to play that online? I'd be interested to find out, as my parents have it, but I have only played it a few times. Also, we are Facebook friends, so if you ever want to know the real meaning of being humbled, I'll challenge you to a game of Scrabble.  ;)

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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2010, 10:42:43 PM »
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Wouldn't it be Prof U U, then? Prof Uber Underwood.
I'm actually so uber that the U can stand for both U words at the same time :)

I don't even know what Diplomacy through Ticket to Ride are
This is so sad.  I pity you your misspent youth :)

Risk of any kind is nearly impossible to determine who is better based on a 2-player match, the winner is almost completely determined by who goes first
That is specifically why I picked LOTR (trilogy edition), which is the one kind that can actually distinguish between skill level in a 2-player version.

I used to play Foosball (the CORRECT spelling of the game, fyi; I'm not sure what "Fussball" is)
Actually the correct spelling of Fussball is with an letter that looks like a slanted capital B, and is part of the German language.  However, that letter when translated into English is usually typed "ss" as that is how it is pronounced.  And the "u" actually has two little dots over it (pronounced oomlout) signifying the special long "u" sound that is commonly misspelled "oo" in America.  It's actually the same two little dots that are over the "u" in "uber" as in Prof U.  But enough of the language lesson, find me at a table sometime and I'll show you how to play the game :)

Back to Twixt, is there anyway to play that online?
Actually there is, and I'd be glad to play sometime.  I'm always amazed when I find someone else who has even heard of that great game.  I'm at my home comp currently, but I'll find the link sometime when I'm in my office and post it for us.

if you ever want to know the real meaning of being humbled, I'll challenge you to a game of Scrabble.  ;)
Now there you have me.  Word games have never been my specialty.  I wouldn't mind getting my tail kicked though, so I'd be glad to try this sometime.

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