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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Official Tournaments => Topic started by: Crashfach2002 on August 02, 2012, 09:40:30 PM
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OK, Rob likes tins but is willing to do something different. I have acquired Womens packs so those are also an option. Let me know what you guys would like. Just remember, not everyone is going to get the option they want, so if this becomes a problem this thread will be deleted and I will flip a coin to see what we do. :)
P.S. if you are wondering, the reason I'm hating on the Angel Wars packs is because based on how good the cards in the packs actually are Angel Wars just doesn't stack up. It has some really good Lost Souls and a couple of good Ultra-Rares but what else?
NOTE: Please only vote if you are actually going to be playing booster draft at Nationals THIS year. Thank you very much!
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P.S. if you are wondering, the reason I'm hating on the Angel Wars packs is because based on how good the cards in the packs actually are Angel Wars just doesn't stack up. It has some really good Lost Souls and a couple of good Ultra-Rares but what else?
I actually like Angel Wars in booster draft (not as an actual pack, its pretty much the worst pack outside of prophets), because it gives a good amount of silver cards, and silver cards can be hard to get out of the other packs at times. Also its always fun to see everybody at the table have a different panic demon that matched the color they were going for so they all end up banding together.
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P.S. if you are wondering, the reason I'm hating on the Angel Wars packs is because based on how good the cards in the packs actually are Angel Wars just doesn't stack up. It has some really good Lost Souls and a couple of good Ultra-Rares but what else?
I actually like Angel Wars in booster draft (not as an actual pack, its pretty much the worst pack outside of prophets), because it gives a good amount of silver cards, and silver cards can be hard to get out of the other packs at times. Also its always fun to see everybody at the table have a different panic demon that matched the color they were going for so they all end up banding together.
I never said there wasn't fun to be had, I just said it was terrible! ;D
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I can't remember if I was doing the booster draft, I think that I am, but I would like to use tins, just not some tins that would be way overpowered in booster.
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The two packs that add the most to Booster draft are Womens and Angel wars, with the other packs falling (much) further behind. Although I agree with Crashfach2002 that AW has (in general) weaker cards, in booster draft it give everyone a secondary offensive brigade--silver--that they can be sure to get cards for. The only other set close to this is Priests (for Teal), and it really isn't much of a comparison.
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I would say play tins and women's for booster and I plan on playing booster. Do I need to sign up for what events I'm playing somewhere?
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If you pre-register I think you do.
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I like AW in booster too, but the best way to draft is with 6 packs, TxP and Di. For real.
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Is preregistration required?
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im gonna agree and vote with prof a im tired of tin drafts
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Y not do tins and all the packs?
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Y not do tins and all the packs?
money, dear boy.
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I'm not as anti tin as others though I do agree that there are strong power differences. The main point for me is that I like more cards to draft from and the 8 booster pack option gives us the most cards by my count. Plus Di and TexP have some really fun cards in them and also include warriors and angel wars.
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i want mah tins! gimme mah tins gimme gimme gimme!!! ;)
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I'm not as anti tin as others though I do agree that there are strong power differences. The main point for me is that I like more cards to draft from and the 8 booster pack option gives us the most cards by my count. Plus Di and TexP have some really fun cards in them and also include warriors and angel wars.
Plus if we pick one of the last two options, I bet we will see womens added to the mix. :)
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I would prferablly have the tins. If some of the tins were excluded, it would solve the issues of overpowered decks because of tin can cards.
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I don't like tins in booster draft just because they determine what you are playing usually and some tins are just way better than others.
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Honestly, womens packs make booster draft 50% more interesting. Claudia, Falling Away, Job's Wife/Sapphira, sites, etc. are just awesome to have in a draft. I would love TexP and Disciples, but Womens packs take precedence because they're better. If we could have the second to last option with womens, I'd be all for it...
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Looks like it's obvious which one is going to be done at this point, unless more people vote.
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Honestly, womens packs make booster draft 50% more interesting. Claudia, Falling Away, Job's Wife/Sapphira, sites, etc. are just awesome to have in a draft. I would love TexP and Disciples, but Womens packs take precedence because they're better. If we could have the second to last option with womens, I'd be all for it...
+1 Honestly this would be pretty awesome.
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I'm not as anti tin as others though I do agree that there are strong power differences. The main point for me is that I like more cards to draft from and the 8 booster pack option gives us the most cards by my count. Plus Di and TexP have some really fun cards in them and also include warriors and angel wars.
Plus if we pick one of the last two options, I bet we will see womens added to the mix. :)
That might not be an option, as these are pretty much the best 5 options to keep my cost below $15. Now the women's packs are being "donated" but they were being held for a Nationals hosted by the donor. So I feel obligated to pay him for the packs being used and if they are not included in the cost in the first place I will have to pay out of pocket for them. But, this could always change so we will see what happens!
Note:
Oh and by the way the only way I could afford the one option you are requesting would be:
Original
Prophets
Kings
Priests
TxP
Disciples
Womens
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Glad to see the way this vote is shaping up, and I hope it will be actually implemented. Tins are the worst thing to happen to Booster. It would still have been bad if the tins had been balanced for Booster, but as it is it's downright terrible!
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Oh and by the way the only way I could afford the one option you are requesting would be:
Original
Prophets
Kings
Priests
TxP
Disciples
Womens
This is totally my vote. Womens, TxP, & Di for the win!!!
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Oh and by the way the only way I could afford the one option you are requesting would be:
Original
Prophets
Kings
Priests
TxP
Disciples
Womens
This is totally my vote. Womens, TxP, & Di for the win!!!
Option added, vote again please!
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8 cards should really seem silly, but Womens packs undoubtedly raise the bar for the entire game. It came at the sweet spot that all card games have where the generically powerful cards were at a peak (band to any evil character, discard a male EC...) but before balance was carefully weighed (Discard the top card of deck to discard an EC...). With draft being full of dead-weight cards, it's awesome to open a pack with a tight ratio of useful cards (including sites!).
Whatever you choose to do if fine, just know you'll find the Redemption community overwhelmingly in favor of any option with Womens in Booster. :D
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Oh and by the way the only way I could afford the one option you are requesting would be:
Original
Prophets
Kings
Priests
TxP
Disciples
Womens
This is totally my vote. Womens, TxP, & Di for the win!!!
Best. Draft. Ever.
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Oh and by the way the only way I could afford the one option you are requesting would be:
Original
Prophets
Kings
Priests
TxP
Disciples
Womens
This is totally my vote. Womens, TxP, & Di for the win!!!
Best. Draft. Ever.
This. Is. Draft.(forget tins, this is where it's at guys)
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So what you guys are saying is that you would have a womens pack over apostles and patriarchs?
Also womens pack only comes with 8 cards.
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Yes.
The only cards worth having in Apostles usually crop up in TxP/Di anyway.
The Patriarchs is a small concession to make to have both Womens and the two 'box' style expansions.
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Here I've listed EE for Womens, Apostles and Patriarchs sorted by color and rarity. The list shows that (W)packs have a fair number of battlewinners while (Ap)packs are minimum with maybe the exception of Faces of Death if you draft Plague with Diseases from Priest. Patriarchs show one or two battle winners in every color with the exception of crimson having a higher amount, but who drafts evil anyways in booster?
Womens EE:
Sorrow of Mary
Temptation
Rizpah's Sackcloth
Carelessness
Foolishness of Five Virgins
Dance of Death
Idle Gossip
Lamentation of Rachel
Deceit of Sapphira
Treachery of Jezebel
Destruction of Athaliah
Scorn of Michal
A Look Back
Foolish Advice
Forbidden Fruit
Apostles EE:
Beaten
Desertion
Facing Angry Mobs
Rivalry
Divination
Drunkenness
Human Wisdom
Palsy
Table of Demons
Departed Wife
Divisions in the Church
Idolatry
Massacre of Innocents
Pain
Scoff at Angels
Worked to Exhaustion
Betrayal
Partners with Demons
Quarreling
Selfish Ambition
Without Food
Divisions
Face of Death
Foolish Boasting
Jealousy
Prison Guards
Wild Parties
Flogging
Hypocrisy
Leading others Astray
Shipwreck
Three Crosses
Denial of Christ
Outburst of Anger
Take as a Slave
Hostility
Sanhedrin
Banishment
Men as Gods
Angelic Rebellion
Christian Suing Another
Lacking Sleep
Pierced Heart
Crucify Him
Great Mourning
Casting Lots
Patriarchs EE:
Abusive Taskmasters
Jephthah's Tragic Vow
Joseph's Brothers' Scheme
Moses kills Egyptian
Smashing Tablets
The gods of Egypt
All Hope Lost
Disobedience
Hagar Dismissed
Judah's Sin
Lamenting
Balaam's Disobedience
Begging for Grain
Desolation of Tamar
Vulnerable
Amorite Invasion
Dream
Isaac Deceived
Midianite Attack
Sarah's Jealousy
Sold into Slavery
The Wages of Sin
Haman's Plot
Brothers' Envy
Gibeonite Trickery
Gifts for Esau
Treachery Afoot
Wickedness of Delilah
Danites Attack
Pit
Striking the Rock
Wrath of Cain
Achan's Sin
Arrogance
Babel
Bad Decision
Coercion
Complaint of Moses
Death of Unrighteous
Deepening Lie
Korah's Rebellion
Stolen Blessing
Stolen Blessing
Stolen Idols
Water Shaft
Battering Ram
Siegeworks
Joseph in Prison
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Womens GE:
Drawn Water
Lamenting for Jepthah's Daughter
Laughter
Children
Piety of Mary
Hospitality of Martha
Love for Rachel
Rhoda's Gladness
Great Faith
Reach of Desperation
Counsel of Abigail
Jael's Nail
Bravery of Priscilla
Scarlet Line
Praises
Coat of Many Colors
Apostles GE:
again subpar exept banding enhancements, Benefiting from Troubles,God's Provision(FirstStrike),Lost Coin Found, and these rares which we will see in TxP and (Di)packs
Third Heaven
Trapped in Cleverness
Fishers of Men
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Sowing the Seed
The Meal in Emmaus
Of One Mind
Raising of Lazarus
Authority of Peter
Transfiguration
Ship to Cyprus
Satan's Folly
Patriarchs GE:
Here we lose banding/negate enhancements at common rarity including:
Best Friends
Patriarch Travels
Blessings
Burning Bush
Loyalty of Ruth (3/2 FirstStrike)
We still see these in TxP/Di:
Jacob's Rods
Blessing of Joshua
Drowning of Pharaoh's Army
Gideon's Call
Jawbone
Plague of Blood
Confused Languages
Gleaning the Fields
Battle Cry
Death of Firstborn
Joseph before Pharaoh
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Such a good option. TexP and Disciples will give us plenty of Apostles, Angel Wars, and Pats. AWesome.
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If anybody has any extra non-special ability lost souls for donation or trade please let me know! Thanks!
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I enjoy the last option. I was a little worried about playing with tins because of the supernew tins which kick butt.
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I have 30 Patriarchs packs and 15 Angel Wars packs. I would be willing to donate* either or both sets to upgrade Booster Draft if the host would be alright with that.
Are there any other players who would be willing to donate packs to make up any shortfall?
P.S. Although I am not planning on playing Booster I voted in the poll for my 9 yo son, who is planning on playing. I hope that was alright.
*By donate I mean give for free, although I may ask to have the event renamed to the 2012 Booster Draft sponsored by EmJayBee83.**
**Not really.***
***Not really for the renaming part. I would be happy to donate the packs.
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I have a handful of Patriarchs that I could toss in - Maybe like 10ish.
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I have 3 Kings, 2 Priests, and $12 Redemption Cash. If you'd let me trade those in for other packs, I'd totally donate them.
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VOTE FOR THE FIRST ONE!!!!!!!!
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Out of curiosity, since it looks like we'll be playing without tins, what will the open order be? Personally, I like the prospect of starting with Di/TxP and moving backwards, to give decks a little more focus.
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VOTE FOR THE FIRST ONE!!!!!!!
:angel: ;) :) 8) ;D :laugh:
I like smiley faces!!!
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Tins are horrible. Vote for the last one!!!!
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VOTE FOR THE FIRST ONE!!!!!!!!
you got ALOT to learn, kid
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9 MORE TO GO!!!
;)
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9 MORE TO GO!!!
;)
Even if you could get 9 more people to vote for that tin option, it probably still would not "win" the poll so to speak, because there are still a lot of votes for a different non-tin option, and most who voted for that option would probably prefer the option that is currently winning over a tin option.
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I will bring the Patriarchs. Between RDT, the Wraith and myself we are only going to be about 15 short (guesstimate of 60 players in Booster). Having faith that those can be found.
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I will bring the Patriarchs. Between RDT, the Wraith and myself we are only going to be about 15 short (guesstimate of 60 players in Booster). Having faith that those can be found.
I have ~100 wrappers that I can turn in for Pats to donate, as well as a few Apostles packs that I would be willing to trade in for Pats as needed.
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I will bring the Patriarchs. Between RDT, the Wraith and myself we are only going to be about 15 short (guesstimate of 60 players in Booster). Having faith that those can be found.
I have ~100 wrappers that I can turn in for Pats to donate, as well as a few Apostles packs that I would be willing to trade in for Pats as needed.
Yeah, I'm bringing 200+ wrappers now. We should definitely have enough.
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I have another 100 or so I can contribute if needed.