Author Topic: Widows  (Read 1733 times)

Offline Arch Angel

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1235
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Widows
« on: August 07, 2010, 10:16:37 PM »
0
Tamar
Type: Hero
Brigade: Blue/White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: If Tamar is discarded in battle by a Male Human, instead heal her and convert her to that Human's brigade. After battle discard a Male Human in a territory. Cannot be Interrupted by a male.
Identifiers: Female, Human, Widow, Harlot
Verse: Genesis 38:6

Covenant with Widows
Type: Covenant
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: While in play, you may redirect any evil Poisons, Diseases, or Discard abilities targeting your Widows to a Male in a territory. May be used twice.
Identifiers: Law
Verse: Exodus 22:22

Forgotten Sheaf
Type: Good Enhancement
Class: Territory
Brigade: White
Ability: None
Special Ability: Place on a male hero in your territory. That male may not enter battle until this card is removed. If your widow or orphan would be targeted by an evil card, you may discard this card to return them to your territory instead.
Identifiers: Law, Food
Verse: Deuteronomy 24:19

Olive Tree
Type: Fortress
Special Ability: Set this aside. During battle you may discard a white bible icon from hand to heal all widows and orphans in play. Whenever a widow makes a successful rescue attempt, you may shuffle one OT white bible icon from your discard pile into your draw pile.
Identifiers: Law
Verse: Deuteronomy 24:20

Grapes
Type: Good Enhancement
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: Interrupt evil immune and repel abilities, Reveal the top three cards of any draw pile. Widows and orphans ignore all evil brigades revealed. If no evil cards were revealed, you may draw a card and band to a female hero.
Identifiers: Food, Law
Verse: Deuteronomy 24:21

Tithe to the Widow
Type: Enhancement
Brigade: White
Ability: 1/10
Special Ability: Interrupt the battle and take one good enhancement from opponent's discard pile into hand. If used by a widow, play it regardless of brigade and withdraw all heroes in battle.
Identifiers: Law
Verse: Deuteronomy 26:13

Perverting of Judgment
Type: Curse
Brigade: Grey
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: While your male evil character is blocking, you may discard this card and all evil cards in battle to protect lost souls from being rescued by female heroes.
Verse: Deuteronomy 27:19

Tekoan Woman (reprint)
Type: Hero
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: Protect this hero and widows from capture. If blocked by a king, force two male evil characters in a territory to fight each other. Cannot be interrupted.
Identifiers: Female, Human
Verse: 2 Samuel 14:2

Hiram of Tyre
Type: Hero
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: Once per game, if a good temple is in play, you may negate and deactivate all active artifacts in play to search deck for an old testament artifact and activate it.
Identifiers: Male, Human, Orphan
Verse: 1 Kings 7:13

Widow of Zarephath
Type: Hero
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: You may search discard pile for a white food and add it to hand to prevent the special ability of the next enhancement opponent plays. If you do not have a good prophet in play, discard this hero after battle.
Identifiers: Human, Female, Widow
Verse: 1 Kings 17:12

Widow's Bread and Oil
Type: Good Enhancement
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: Interrupt the battle and return all cards in battle to owners' hand(s), except this one. If a good prophet is in play, you may begin a new battle. Otherwise, protect all cards in your hand from being played until end of turn.
Identifiers: Food
Verse: 1 Kings 17:14

Hopeless Meal
Type: Evil Enhancement
Brigade: Grey
Ability: None
Special Ability: Discard all cards in battle. Cannot be negated if a widow is in battle.
Identifiers: Food
Verse: 1 Kings 17:12

Orphan of Zarephath
Type: Hero
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: May band to a widow. The first time this hero loses a battle, instead return him to owner's territory and increase him by 3/3.
Identifiers: Human, Male, Orphan, Child
Verse: 1 Kings 17:22

Prophet's Widow (reprint of Widow)
Type: Hero
Brigade: White
Ability: 3/3
Special Ability: If a male prophet is in your discard pile, hero ignores evil characters */8 or greater.
Identifiers: Human, Female, Widow
Verse: 2 Kings 4:1

Prophet's Orphans
Type: Hero
Brigade: White
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: May band to a widow to prevent evil search and draw abilities.
Identifiers: Human, Male, Orphan
Verse: 2 Kings 4:1

Sent Away
Type: Evil Enhancement
Brigade: Brown
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: Ignore female heroes. All female heroes currently in battle must withdraw. Cannot be interupted by a female.
Verse: Job 22:9
« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 02:17:40 AM by Arch Angel »

Offline Arch Angel

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1235
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Widows
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 10:17:20 PM »
0
Widow's Ox
Type: Good Enhancement
Brigade: White
Class: Territory
Ability: 4/3
Special Ability: Place on a widow: that widow has access to any site while this card remains. If this card is discarded, discard a male evil character in a territory.
Identifiers: Animal
Verse: Job 24:3

Widow's Joy
Type: Good Enhancement
Brigade: White
Class: Territory
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: Search your discard pile for a male hero, return him to your territory and convert him to white brigade. If rescuing, band him into battle.
Identifiers: Blessing
Verse: Job 29:13

Priest's Widows
Type: Evil Character
Brigade: Grey
Ability: 7/8
Special Ability: Immune to male heroes.
Identifiers: Human, Female, Widow, Generic
Verse: Psalms 78:64

Slay the Widow
Type: Evil Enhancement
Brigade: Grey
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: Discard a female */6 or lower to end the battle. Cannot be Interrupted.
Verse: Psalms 94:6

Widow of the Wicked
Type: Evil Character
Brigade: Grey
Ability: 3/3
Special Ability: May band to an evil character with false in the title. Discard that evil character after battle to discard a male in a territory. Cannot be prevented by a male.
Identifiers: Human, Female, Widow, Generic
Verse: Psalms 109:9

Orphans of the Wicked
Type: Evil Character
Brigade: Grey
Ability: */*
Special Ability: If there are no males in battle, you may play an enhancement or discard a card from your opponent's hand at random.
Identifiers: Human, Genderless, Orphan, Generic. * = number of evil characters in your discard pile.
Verse: Psalms 109:9

Daughter of the Chaldeans
Type: Evil Character
Brigade: Grey/Pale Green
Ability: 2/2
Special Ability: If blocking, flip a coin. If heads, discard an opponent's male human in a territory. If tails, discard your own. Prevent drawing abilities. Cannot be interrupted.
Identifiers: Human, Female, Magician, Widow
Verse: Isaiah 47:1
« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 02:11:37 AM by Arch Angel »

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Widows
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 10:47:50 PM »
0
TLDR. Not enough pizazz in the SA's, just a bunch of dumping on Males.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

Offline Arch Angel

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1235
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Widows
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 11:28:42 PM »
0
Why is there not enough pizazz? I tried to make it a valid theme, and followed the pattern of the other themes in redemption and tried to give them a central play style (eg: Prophets shuffle). The different cards also do many different things.

I do understand it's long, I kinda got inadvertently carried away, but could you please explain why you think there's no pizazz?

For those wondering, btw, the numbers all being 2/2 is for a reason. Many of the cards have significance behind the 2/2 (For exampple, Tamar had 2 husbands, and 2 sons. Covenant with Widows is found in the 22nd verse of the 22nd chapter of the 2nd book of the bible, and many others) At a point there were so many cards with relevant 2/2 abilities that it seemed like it fit to carry along the theme.

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Widows
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 12:36:47 AM »
0
Tamar: Idk about having someone like that as a Hero. Rahab is an exception because she gave that up pretty soon after she's introduced, and that's not what she's known for.

Covenant with Widows should be worded as an "instead" so that it stops CM.

Forgotten Sheaf is OP.

Olive Tree is solid, though I worry about recycling AoCP too much with LCF or MaE.

Grapes is pretty cool, but I don't see it being used due to the fact that NNfS is just a better card. Perhaps if it also Discarded the Evil cards?

Tithe to the Widow, I don't like any ITB battle-winner, especially since it can fetch Zeal or AoCP and be CBN to boot.

Perverting of Judgment is too narrow to be usable.

I really like Tekoan Woman, the first one that gets my attention, but needs CBI so that it works with KoT and Assyrian Kings with their Art up.

Hiram is a lot on the powerful side, tutor an O.T. Art, activate it, and stop all Arts in play at no cost is too much. Especially since Speed can use that to get in Mayhem, FA, etc. on a Lampstand easily.

Widow of Z I hate. PBI is not good, even if it's luck based, especially if it actually punishes mono-Brigades.

Widow's Bread and Oil is just WAY OP, especially with Widow of Z.

Hopeless Meal is ok, but it really should be all characters, especially if you're going to give it a CBN that can be triggered by your own cards.

Orphan of Z is solid theme-fodder.

Ditto Prophet's Orphans.

Sent Away is too limited. Give it some more teeth somehow.

Widow's Ox is solid.

Widow's Joy is good, although it should have TC and an "if Rescuing" clause on the adding to battle to make it usable.

Priest's Widows is solid, but could use more defense to not get slaughtered by FbtN.

Slay the Widow is far too limited to ever be useful.

Widow of the Wicked is ok.

Orphans of the Wicked should be genderless, and it's ok.

Daughter of the Chaldeans, I don't like the intense luck factor, and I also don't like a CBN standalone stopper even with the luck factor.

Basically, these cards are solid, but not much really grabs my attention. They don't really do anything too terribly useful that another theme doesn't do better, I can't see them being used (unless the uber OP cards get made), and there's just a general lack of flair imo. Good ideas, just missing something.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 02:50:36 AM by The Schaef »
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

Offline Arch Angel

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1235
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Widows
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 02:29:21 AM »
0
Tamar: Idk about having a whore as a Hero. Rahab is an exception because she gave that up pretty soon after she's introduced, and that's not what she's known for.
Se was only temporarily a harlot. also, later on Judah said that she had been more righteous than he, so if Judah's a hero I feel okay saying Tamar can be one too.

Quote
Covenant with Widows should be worded as an "instead" so that it stops CM.
It's a redirect, so wouldn't it do that anyways? I know Dominants are CBN, but CBN isn't the same a cannot be redirected, is it?

Edited Forgotten Sheaf, Grapes, Tithe to the Widow, Perverting of Judgment, Hiram, Widow of Zarephath, Widow's Bread and Oil, Hopeless Meal, Sent Away, Slay the Widow, Orphans of the Wicked

Added CBI to Tekoan Woman, I agree it works better that way.

Added TC and "If rescuing" clause to Widow's Joy. Wouldn't have thought of making that a TC enh.

Upped Priest's Widows' numbers

Changed Daughter of the Chaldeans to in territory. I like the luck of it, since it's like the divination she is condemned for in the passage, so I'd really rather not remove that.

Any better? Also, this is only about... a third of the cards. I realized how many I'd posted and stopped writing the rest. xP

Offline TheJaylor

  • Trade Count: (+18)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3114
  • Fortress Alstad
    • -
    • North Central Region
    • Redemption with Jayden
Re: Widows
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 09:22:05 AM »
0
i think all of them are pretty cool! i'd definitely add these to my female deck

drb1200

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Widows
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2010, 11:04:11 AM »
0
Quote
Tamar: Idk about having someone like that as a Hero. Rahab is an exception because she gave that up pretty soon after she's introduced, and that's not what she's known for.
Actually the hebrew word is very similar to um...*cough cough* THAT, but it really means inn keeper.

Offline The M

  • Trade Count: (+15)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2216
  • FALCON PUNCH!
    • -
    • North Central Region
Re: Widows
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2010, 12:28:17 PM »
0
These are nice not very op'd cards.
good job.
Retired?

 


SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal