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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2012, 02:14:02 PM »
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You could have this David and Green David in the same deck.
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2012, 02:17:12 PM »
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You can already have red and green David in the same deck (I believe), so this doesn't add anything to that, just changes what one of those two is.

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2012, 02:18:58 PM »
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Yeah but having this David + Green David would be better than Red + Green, so there is still improvement to Sam decks. 
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2012, 02:27:15 PM »
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Yeah but having this David + Green David would be better than Red + Green, so there is still improvement to Sam decks.

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2012, 02:28:35 PM »
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But it would give Sam another version of David to search for and draw 2 off of.

That was the point I was arguing against. I never said it doesn't help Sam decks (because it does), I was simply pointing out that it doesn't add to the number of Davids a Sam deck can already search/draw from.

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2012, 03:19:10 PM »
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Again I'm saying forget the NT restriction and do a Covinent With Death like play restriction that stays active in territory. This takes care of the problems created by Hidden Treasures and the play restriction hurts Sammy.
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2012, 03:27:27 PM »
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Apparently in different parts of the country it's been ruled differently as to whether or not Samuel can search for David/Saul (and draw 2) if a copy is already in play. The elders have been discussing this and you can expect an official ruling soon, probably within a week. But to my dismay I do not believe you will be allowed to create duplicates with Samuel.

I doubt we'll see a new version of David anytime soon, so there's no immediate scare of boosting Samuel decks. cookie monster is correct though, I intentionally moved the banding ability to King David who has a II Samuel reference so as to not help Samuel/FBTNb.

@ Jmbeers - going forward, when we print characters with abilities that are active in territory, they will probably be territory class. However, if that happens we won't combine warrior and territory class on the same character.
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2012, 03:37:57 PM »
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I was thinking of something that would say something like "while in play" so it would activate once after entering entering battle. (Thinking of and Esther)
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2012, 04:20:11 PM »
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Apparently in different parts of the country it's been ruled differently as to whether or not Samuel can search for David/Saul (and draw 2) if a copy is already in play. The elders have been discussing this and you can expect an official ruling soon, probably within a week. But to my dismay I do not believe you will be allowed to create duplicates with Samuel.

I hope you guys nail down the differences between that potential ruling and The standing ruling on unholy writ being able to discard duplicates.  Several people will struggle with why one is allowed and the other is not.  You may have already thought of it, but just a heads up.


 I actually really like all versions of the 4 color David.  I just really want a David that is useful/awesome pretty much since I started playing years ago.
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2012, 06:17:39 PM »
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2012, 09:56:01 PM »
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I really like the flip character!

2 requests:

1) change the King David art.  I've never been a fan of it, since I know the artist intended for it to show Solomon sinning.  :(
2) If David has to win in battle before becoming "King David," then you might as well let King David keep white, since he remained a musician.  He could keep red, too, but it might not be as needed.  :)

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #61 on: April 23, 2012, 10:15:18 PM »
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I think keeping the colors split will keep it from being abused with Hidden Treasures. It also reflects what kind of character was more dominant during his lifetime. It's pretty balanced IMO.
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2012, 02:17:37 PM »
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Does anybody know what the next expansion will be? ::)
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2012, 02:22:17 PM »
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Starter decks.

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2012, 02:42:14 PM »
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Starter decks.
Where's the proof that it will be a starter deck?

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #65 on: April 27, 2012, 02:43:18 PM »
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Starter decks.
Where's the proof that it will be a starter deck?

Multiple statements by multiple Elders have confirmed it's starter decks. There is literally zero doubt.

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2012, 03:44:48 PM »
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I hope it will at least be useful this time.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2012, 03:47:30 PM »
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I hope it will at least be useful this time.

There are still a handful of cards from the G&H decks that are well-used. Considering we don't many cards from more current sets like FooF and RoA, that's not bad.

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2012, 03:58:24 PM »
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Yea, I'm just looking generally, The Egyptian stuff and the Disciple stuff seemed like most of the best stuff in there. But for groups that don't have access to the newer cards, its quite good.
I'd suggest to check your nearest Family Christian Bookstore if you need newer cards for your playgroup. They usually sell Redemption cards and the Coupons always work on them because they aren't popular enough to go on sale (mostly because people don't know that they sell Redemption cards) I have seen quite a few packs, TexP, Di, and Tins (and sometimes Starter Decks).
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #69 on: April 27, 2012, 09:49:56 PM »
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do we know anything about the starter decks other than the fact that they are starter decks?  any spoilers?

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #70 on: April 27, 2012, 09:54:38 PM »
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #71 on: April 27, 2012, 10:17:22 PM »
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They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #72 on: April 27, 2012, 10:24:56 PM »
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Hope Philistines will get some boost from the starters, they need some more stuff.

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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #73 on: April 27, 2012, 10:30:13 PM »
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Need a boost? They have one of the most unkillable combos out there and plenty of nasty Enhancements to boot! I don't think they need a boost. Saducess are the ones that need more of a boost in black because they still are too slow and don't work well at all.
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Re: Four Color David
« Reply #74 on: April 27, 2012, 10:33:41 PM »
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Need a boost? They have one of the most unkillable combos out there and plenty of nasty Enhancements to boot! I don't think they need a boost. Saducess are the ones that need more of a boost in black because they still are too slow and don't work well at all.

Both Sadducees and Philistines need a serious boost, though the former is definitely in more of a need of it. Really, all three of the black defenses (Sads, Phils, and Canaanites) need boosts to be good defensive choices.

 


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