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slugfencer

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Father of lies
« on: May 11, 2017, 11:38:50 AM »
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Demonic evil character... Father of Lies.
Special ability: convert a human good character to an evil character. Cannot be negated.
Unique. Not sure what the strength and toughness would be?

 Bible verse John 8:44 "you are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks A lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of Lies."

My thought on the special ability derives from the fact that Satan tricks Christians into believing we are an evil character instead of a good character. Hence the conversion ability.
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Re: Father of lies
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2017, 11:48:40 AM »
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Making a CBN autoblocker against human heroes is probably super OP. Especially with no real cost to do it. CBP with a cost to do this might be better.
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Re: Father of lies
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2017, 11:50:55 AM »
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Fun fact: There was a card idea for a "Father of Lies" card on the alternates list for RoJ, but it did not end up making it to the set list. I could definitely see it being a card that is made in a potential future "Gospels" set.  8)

Your version seems a bit too strong to me as that would stop almost every human Hero (especially combined with Household Idols to stop banding and Coliseum to negate Heroes protected from conversion).

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Re: Father of lies
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2017, 12:00:45 PM »
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As it is right now, it's way broken! i personally would make it "Once per game, you may [Cost] to convert a human hero in a territory regardless of protection. Cannot be prevented" still really powerful, maybe still too powerful, but as broken. i do like idea though. 
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Re: Father of lies
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 01:35:09 PM »
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How about this:

Once per game you may banish a random card from deck to convert an opponent's Hero to an Evil Character in the brigade of your choice. May band to a demon. Cannot be prevented.
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Re: Father of lies
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 01:42:22 PM »
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Quote from: dermo4christ on May 11, 2017, 01:35:09 PM
How about this:

Once per game you may banish a random card from deck to convert an opponent's Hero to an Evil Character in the brigade of your choice. May band to a demon. Cannot be prevented.
This guy would be awesome in T2 with haunting spirits. use him, dc him after battle, decreased someone by 3/3, next turn, banish him to decrease someone by 3/3. if he's not multi brigade, throw in four for a total of 24/24 total decreases with four converted heroes in opponent's territory! that's a guaranteed takeout of at least 6 heroes!
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Re: Father of lies
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2017, 09:44:44 PM »
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Awesome input and feedback. Yea I like the last version. This is why steve does not make cards.  :o
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