Author Topic: Expansion Submissions Discussion (Read 9907 times)

Professoralstad · « **on:** September 15, 2011, 02:24:01 AM »

I was thinking it might be nice to have a separate thread from the submissions thread for discussion of the submissions, which would keep the other thread devoted to just submissions. If Pol or any of the people more involved with the project want to modify/delete this thread, they are more than welcome to. I was just thinking it wouldn't be helpful to have a bunch of comments on certain cards interspersed with the submission ideas.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2011, 02:34:12 AM »

I was going to make one of these myself, thanks for saving me the trouble!

theselfevident · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2011, 02:13:47 PM »

One thing I would like to see (and I truely believe would be beneficial to the game and Cactus Game Design) is cards that make cards from the older sets viable in todays game.

1. Because it will cause diversity in decks
2. Will cause increased interest in older cards and drive up sales for them as well as the new set.

Let me put it further this way. I have Red Dragon from the original set. I bought it from TLG back when it was a hoss of a card at $5 or $10. That card is now worthless. Lets say the next expansion focuses on enhancing old cards like Red Dragon. A new card ability could be "(Teritory class) Place on evil character with no special ability. Character ignores heros with banding abilities." (or something along those lines) all the sudden old cards become viable. Purchases of old cards already sitting on shelves would possibly get sold and decks could be built on diversified concepts.

megamanlan · « **Reply #3 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:00:36 PM »

I'd love to see that, and I'd like to see some nice stuff for Revleation, specifically reprinting the Seals and Trumps.

JSB23 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:49:55 PM »

The cards in the last few sets have been too useful, we need to go back to having 90% of the set be cruft.

theselfevident · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:52:53 PM »

Quote from: JSB23 on September 15, 2011, 04:49:55 PM

The cards in the last few sets have been too useful, we need to go back to having 90% of the set be cruft.

not at all what I said. What I'm saying is, lets help out the old cards with the new set and make them game viable as well. Afterall they are part of the game too.

megamanlan · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:05:56 PM »

I agree, I'd like to see some old cards come back.
Like whats happening w/ Gideon

Gabe · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2011, 10:53:42 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on September 15, 2011, 05:05:56 PM

I agree, I'd like to see some old cards come back.
Like whats happening w/ Gideon

I totally agree that new cards should encourage the use of old ones.

Sampson, and David (red and green), and King Saul (as well as some other 1st Samuel Heroes) are all seeing play now. Apparently Storehouse and Pharaoh's Prison are too. I've actually used Angel of His Presence in a non-test deck for the first time ever this month. If Canaanites get played things like Sisera, Bera King of Sodom (and Sodom), Prince of Tyrus (Wa), Lot's Wife and Lot's Daughters should all see some use. King Omri is being used in competitive tournament decks.

Those are all cards that I hadn't seen in competitive tournament decks prior to the new set. I know there is still room for improvement, but hopefully the elder team has done a decent job making some of peoples old cards useful again, or maybe even for the first time.

Quote from: JSB23 on September 15, 2011, 04:49:55 PM

The cards in the last few sets have been too useful, we need to go back to having 90% of the set be cruft.

You got it. We'll print up some starter decks full of no SA characters for you next year!

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2011, 11:20:17 PM »

Some no-SA cards I'd love to see:

1/1 Judge
Generic Canaanite
Evil King Saul
Artifact (for t2h lulz)
Mark again

Gabe · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2011, 11:29:46 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 15, 2011, 11:20:17 PM

Some no-SA cards I'd love to see:

Mark again

You'll have to win a thumb wresting match with ProfUnderwood before he'd ever allow that to happen.

megamanlan · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2011, 11:49:54 PM »

I made a card that makes 'useless' no-effect Enhancements quite useful:

Removing Peace
1/1 Crimson/Orange Evil Territory Class Enhancement
Rev. 6:4, Involves Judgement
Discard all Enhancements in Territory to place this Card in your Territory. While there all Enhancements that do not have an effect or make a Hero retreat or Returned to a players hand to 'Discard a Character.' Instead.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2011, 07:30:49 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 15, 2011, 11:20:17 PM

Some no-SA cards I'd love to see:

Evil King Saul

Um, wouldn't that make Samuel even more powerful?

soul seeker · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2011, 12:49:27 PM »

Should I save all my submissions for at once consideration?
OR
allow them to trickle in?

One of my favorites is in the series of 7 Detestable sins--->it really hurts Doms (your opponent's anyway). However, I would like to complete the full set.

EDIT: Another question: Do we have to use the King James Version of the verse (a.k.a. keep the long-standing standard for Redemption Cards) when naming the card?

drb1200 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2011, 01:06:57 PM »

Is this expansion going to be released all at the same time or as the cards are approved and created?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2011, 02:03:22 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on September 15, 2011, 11:29:46 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 15, 2011, 11:20:17 PM
Some no-SA cards I'd love to see:

Mark again

You'll have to win a thumb wresting match with ProfUnderwood before he'd ever allow that to happen.

theselfevident · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2011, 02:07:20 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 16, 2011, 02:03:22 PM

Quote from: Gabe on September 15, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 15, 2011, 11:20:17 PM
Some no-SA cards I'd love to see:

Mark again

You'll have to win a thumb wresting match with ProfUnderwood before he'd ever allow that to happen.

Cuz you look like Jesus...

megamanlan · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2011, 03:15:20 PM »

...I can see 100 years from now he is the only Character not reprinted w/ an effect.

Gabe · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2011, 04:26:25 PM »

We'll start printing cards with no SA but give them really awesome identifiers.

browarod · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:08:31 PM »

Some Dude
1/1 Rainbow Hero
-Generic, Protected from everything-
No special ability
~Some Verse

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:18:01 PM »

Quote from: soul seeker on September 16, 2011, 12:49:27 PM

Should I save all my submissions for at once consideration?
OR
allow them to trickle in?

One of my favorites is in the series of 7 Detestable sins--->it really hurts Doms (your opponent's anyway). However, I would like to complete the full set.

EDIT: Another question: Do we have to use the King James Version of the verse (a.k.a. keep the long-standing standard for Redemption Cards) when naming the card?

You can keep a running submission, just try to keep it all on one post with edits.

You are free to name all of your cards George Foreman if you like. Few submissions will be created piecemeal, so if you name a card "Persian Princes" instead of "Persian Presidents," its final title will be in convention.

theselfevident · « **Reply #20 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:47:00 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on September 15, 2011, 04:00:36 PM

I'd love to see that, and I'd like to see some nice stuff for Revleation, specifically reprinting the Seals and Trumps.

I think the seals could be Doms (especially with the proposed Dom limits)

The 6th seal: Discard all sites and Fortresses in play.
"and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood; and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, The sky was split apart, every mountain and island were moved out of their places."

JSB23 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:56:05 PM »

I'm going to say this right now,
I'm against anything that makes silver a stand alone.

1. Most of the cards now only target humans, making angels incredibly powerful
2. Chamber of Angels an insanely infuriating card to play against
last (and most important)
3. It doesn't make any biblical sense. The main job of angels is to intervene on behalf of humans, there's no biblical case where angels act on their own.

Oh and Megaman your Lost souls are all really OP.

theselfevident · « **Reply #22 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:58:13 PM »

Quote from: JSB23 on September 16, 2011, 05:56:05 PM

I'm going to say this right now,
I'm against anything that makes silver a stand alone.

1. Most of the cards now only target humans, making angels incredibly powerful
2. Chamber of Angels an insanely infuriating card to play against
last (and most important)
3. It doesn't make any biblical sense. The main job of angels is to intervene on behalf of humans, there's no biblical case where angels act on their own.

I somewhat agree with your arguement on silver.... Plus this is why I thought the seals could be Doms (non lost soul rescueing ones) due to the new proposed limits on Doms in a deck.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #23 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:59:32 PM »

The only silver theme that should be able to stand on its own is Revelation.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #24 on:** September 16, 2011, 06:04:46 PM »

Quote from: JSB23 on September 16, 2011, 05:56:05 PM

there's no biblical case where angels act on their own.

I think the angel who slaughtered all those Assyrians did so by himself.

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Author Topic: Expansion Submissions Discussion (Read 9907 times)

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