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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1025 on: April 06, 2019, 11:34:16 AM »
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1026 on: April 06, 2019, 11:38:41 AM »
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I agree it should be purple

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1027 on: April 06, 2019, 11:42:11 AM »
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And? Perhaps the Blood that Jesus shed for us when he bore our sin

I wouldn't say the brigade red represents blood.  Blood is just red in color.

In redemption the blood of Jesus (the Lamb) seems to have been mostly represented by the brigade white for it's redeeming/purifying nature.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1028 on: April 06, 2019, 11:53:38 AM »
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And? Perhaps the Blood that Jesus shed for us when he bore our sin

I’m sorry but this doesn’t make sense given the card’s ability. If the card is specifying a king then kings represent royalty, and royalty is represented by purple in Redemption. If green is representing the prophets, and teal the priests, then why deviate from this with kings and purple? The same could be said for teal also respresenting blood. Priests sure shed a lot of it with animal sacrifices they perfomed for Israel’s atonement. 

And I agree with Kor that in Redemption white represents the blood of Jesus, not red. Otherwise, you all would have given Blood of the Lamb (RoJ) red and not white.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1029 on: April 06, 2019, 11:59:50 AM »
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In the past white and silver were used on enhancements to represent God’s role. In PoC we focused on specific traits, mostly how the interaction tied to the office of prophet, priest or king (green/ teal or purple).

In the past red was primarily used for military. We’ve expanded that role a little this year as John describes. Expect a lot more of that in the future.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1030 on: April 06, 2019, 12:23:11 PM »
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I'm sure there's a good explanation, but I'm not seeing it.

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Anyone mind letting me know how this card involves music?
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1031 on: April 06, 2019, 12:25:50 PM »
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In the past white and silver were used on enhancements to represent God’s role. In PoC we focused on specific traits, mostly how the interaction tied to the office of prophet, priest or king (green/ teal or purple).

In the past red was primarily used for military. We’ve expanded that role a little this year as John describes. Expect a lot more of that in the future.

Although I still believe purple is most appropriate for this enhancement, I appreciate your explanation of the reasoning behind it, instead of just asking a rhetorical question and making a statement that had no explanation with it, particularly when there was no precedent in Redemption for red representing the blood of Jesus when red has been established (as documented in the REG) as representing military might.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1032 on: April 06, 2019, 01:14:22 PM »
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I'm sure there's a good explanation, but I'm not seeing it.

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Anyone mind letting me know how this card involves music?

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1033 on: April 06, 2019, 01:31:57 PM »
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I'm sure there's a good explanation, but I'm not seeing it.

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Anyone mind letting me know how this card involves music?
Song of the Suffering Servant. It's the reason why Isaiah is a musician.

On another note, why isn't The Suffering Servant Involve Music as well? It's the same passage (Next verse even) but isn't marked as involves music on the card.

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1034 on: April 06, 2019, 01:35:36 PM »
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Thanks for explanations!
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1035 on: April 06, 2019, 01:36:35 PM »
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There are 4 "servant songs" in Isaiah. It's at least part of the reason Isaiah is considered a musician in Redemption.

We are retroactively adding the "involves music" identifier to The Suffering Servant from phase 1 and it also appears on Bearing Our Sin (but was added after the image you see was uploaded). Thanks to MasterQ for bringing those to our attention!
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1036 on: April 06, 2019, 03:03:23 PM »
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Purple is certainly an appropriate option for Bearing Our Sin. It's mostly not there for game balance purposes. We feel that purple already has one of the best "add to battle" cards in Faith of David and do not desire to give it a second one that is broadly and easily usable for that brigade. Both the lack of purple and the unity identifier are due to the prevalence of Throne decks in T1.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1037 on: April 08, 2019, 09:10:39 AM »
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We are retroactively adding the "involves music" identifier to The Suffering Servant from phase 1 and it also appears on Bearing Our Sin (but was added after the image you see was uploaded). Thanks to MasterQ for bringing those to our attention!

Does this mean that when the combined PoC boxes release, Suffering Servant will have the identifier, or will it just be eratta'd to have it?
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1038 on: April 08, 2019, 10:07:27 AM »
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Does this mean that when the combined PoC boxes release, Suffering Servant will have the identifier, or will it just be eratta'd to have it?

Errata, yes and no. Technically any changes we make to print on demand cards apply to all copies, so in that sense the phase 1 copies will have an errata. But a card doesn't need to have the identifier on it to qualify as an appropriate "type". Identifiers like "involves music", "prophet", "martyr", "Babylonian", etc are there as a reminder to help game play.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1039 on: April 08, 2019, 01:29:31 PM »
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Feel like being spoiled today?  If so, head on over to YTG's Facebook page to get your fill! ;)

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1040 on: April 08, 2019, 05:46:26 PM »
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Our next two spoilers tie in with Day of the Lord that was spoiled by YTG this morning. These three cards introduce a star ability that requires players to remember for a short period of time that an effect is taking place that limits player's interactions. With all the things going on in the game it's easy, even for seasoned veterans, to forget sometimes. We highly recommend that players use some visual method to indicate when they use these effects. For example, during play testing I'd set my dice box or deck box in the field of battle to help me remember.

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1041 on: April 08, 2019, 06:01:23 PM »
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1042 on: April 08, 2019, 07:40:17 PM »
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Here's a couple more prophecies from the minor prophets.

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1043 on: April 08, 2019, 11:58:06 PM »
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I feel as though Outpouring could have that nice lil Acts reference from Peter's sermon. I understand if you considered him though.

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1044 on: April 09, 2019, 09:22:12 AM »
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Goooooooooood morning forum members...how about a couple PoC Phase 2 spoilers to start your day?  8)

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1045 on: April 09, 2019, 09:39:37 AM »
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Any reason for Gathered Together needing purple?  Seems like it would have been fine as just green unless you really wanted it playable off Throne.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1046 on: April 09, 2019, 09:44:20 AM »
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Any reason for Gathered Together needing purple?  Seems like it would have been fine as just green unless you really wanted it playable off a Throne band.

A couple reasons. Primarily because it’s prophetic about Israel being reuimited under a single king (the Messiah). We also don’t have any single brigade good enhancements in the set.

We tested this with TToD. It originally only banded matching brigade Heroes but interrupted on anyone. If you really want to band off TToD there are quite a few other options, some of them better than this.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1047 on: April 09, 2019, 09:52:15 AM »
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Any reason for Gathered Together needing purple?  Seems like it would have been fine as just green unless you really wanted it playable off a Throne band.

A couple reasons. Primarily because it’s prophetic about Israel being reuimited under a single king (the Messiah). We also don’t have any single brigade good enhancements in the set.

We tested this with TToD. It originally only banded matching brigade Heroes but interrupted on anyone. If you really want to band of TToD there are quite a few other options, some of them better than this.

Ok that makes sense, thanks!
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1048 on: April 09, 2019, 02:46:31 PM »
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Maybe stupid question: But is there any summary list of the Phase2 cards where also Rarity can be seen? (Maybe I missed it.)

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #1049 on: April 09, 2019, 02:52:25 PM »
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Maybe stupid question: But is there any summary list of the Phase2 cards where also Rarity can be seen? (Maybe I missed it.)

Not yet. They are literally being finalized and sent to the printer today and tomorrow. We have 2 more preview articles which will spoil the remaining cards coming out on LoR. After that expect the HD card images to be uploaded to the LoR Imgur library and card lists to be added to the LoR resource library ASAP.
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