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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #500 on: October 13, 2018, 09:53:33 AM »
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How about some weekend spoilers?!!? On Saturday and Sunday we'll only be dropping 3-4 cards per day total, but lets keep the HYPE going!

Did you know that Noah and the flood foreshadowed God's ultimate plan of salvation which is fulfilled in Christ? Now flood survivor decks will have a choice to make, giving us greater variety in builds!

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #501 on: October 13, 2018, 11:10:01 AM »
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Looks awesome!! Along with providing more variety in deck builds, I also like how this gives players who didn't go to that Nats and can't afford to buy the promo version an accessible option!
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #502 on: October 13, 2018, 02:01:01 PM »
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Happy to see we're getting a new Noah's Ark! I was really disappointed when CoW made a lot of cards that works with Noah's Ark and the Noah's Ark card we got was the Nationals Promo that year.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #503 on: October 13, 2018, 02:16:21 PM »
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #504 on: October 13, 2018, 02:28:33 PM »
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Can you see the writing on the wall?

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Holy Daniel decks, Batman!

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #505 on: October 13, 2018, 02:37:36 PM »
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Slightly disappointed Guardian didn't get to spoil that one. I can't find his old card idea thread but didn't that version let the opponent pick a card to discard or something like that instead of being random? I'm not too opposed to the randomness on the player has a pretty good amount of control over it but I liked the design of it being opponent's choice.

Edit: Would it be possible to add "up to X" instead of "X"? A smaller number will actually be better in a lot of cases since you'll probably want keep some cards safe from the discard and it feels a little weird for a Babylonian synergy card to actually punish you for playing lots of Babylonians.

Edit2: Found the old thread, image is gone but his post references randomness. I guess either someone suggested opponent's choice as an alternate version or I completely misremembered. I still like the idea though.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #506 on: October 13, 2018, 02:42:52 PM »
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Slightly disappointed Guardian didn't get to spoil that one. I can't find his old card idea thread but didn't that version let the opponent pick a card to discard or something like that instead of being random? I'm not too opposed to the randomness on the player has a pretty good amount of control over it but I liked the design of it being opponent's choice.

Edit: Would it be possible to add "up to X" instead of "X"? A smaller number will actually be better in a lot of cases since you'll probably want keep some cards safe from the discard and it feels a little weird for a Babylonian synergy card to actually punish you for playing lots of Babylonians.


Justin's original post has a broken link to the image but his comment says it's random.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #507 on: October 13, 2018, 03:04:26 PM »
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I see an alternate Flood survivor build with Ark of Salvation, but not exactly a Nationals placing one.  ;)
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #508 on: October 13, 2018, 03:15:31 PM »
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I'm really liking this set more and more...lots of thematic, niche, and balanced cards, with CBP/CBI/CBN used very selectively. The overall game's power creep doesn't seem like it will increase by too much with this set.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #509 on: October 13, 2018, 03:22:00 PM »
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I see an alternate Flood survivor build with Ark of Salvation, but not exactly a Nationals placing one.  ;)

My impression is that it's less for full flood decks than for a 12 Gates deck or something. Making Japheth's Wife, one of the best flood survivors, basically useless is not ideal for a full flood deck, but having it in a deck with Noah, Shem, and Japheth in addition to the Abraham package and maybe some Joseph cards isn't the worst thing ever.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #510 on: October 13, 2018, 04:36:21 PM »
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I see an alternate Flood survivor build with Ark of Salvation, but not exactly a Nationals placing one.  ;)

My impression is that it's less for full flood decks than for a 12 Gates deck or something. Making Japheth's Wife, one of the best flood survivors, basically useless is not ideal for a full flood deck, but having it in a deck with Noah, Shem, and Japheth in addition to the Abraham package and maybe some Joseph cards isn't the worst thing ever.


  Seems like a 12 Gates but it is in the set aside area.  Also it would protect your heroes in territory from neutral cards as well ( Like the shame Lost Soul etc)

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #511 on: October 13, 2018, 04:44:30 PM »
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New Covenant SA: Convert an evil human. Return this card to hand after battle.

Has a Ezekiel reference on it.



This card would be CBN on Ezekiel , Michael and a few teal priests and it would return to hand after battle and can be used multiple times on these characters every battle phase.

It this considered too strong or is the power level of this card okay for the game??


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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #512 on: October 13, 2018, 04:58:40 PM »
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I see an alternate Flood survivor build with Ark of Salvation, but not exactly a Nationals placing one.  ;)

My impression is that it's less for full flood decks than for a 12 Gates deck or something. Making Japheth's Wife, one of the best flood survivors, basically useless is not ideal for a full flood deck, but having it in a deck with Noah, Shem, and Japheth in addition to the Abraham package and maybe some Joseph cards isn't the worst thing ever.


  Seems like a 12 Gates but it is in the set aside area.  Also it would protect your heroes in territory from neutral cards as well ( Like the shame Lost Soul etc)

Yeah that’s how I see it too.  Also has the benefit of the blue covenant activation and genesis reference which might sometimes be useful.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #513 on: October 13, 2018, 07:31:06 PM »
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The last spoiler of the day is a very nice capture card that punishes the opponent the more good brigades they have in battles as well as giving a nice little extra fortress/site hate effect if it is played on a Babylonian. Enjoy...

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #514 on: October 13, 2018, 09:24:28 PM »
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #515 on: October 13, 2018, 09:56:34 PM »
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So far spoilers are great! You guys are doing a great job! I will say one thing...

I really don't like how you guys are using parentheses in the abilities. In most card games parentheses are used as clarifying text. A few of these new cards are using parentheses in the place of "or" and "and". It's confusing on the first read, especially considering parentheses have never been used like this in previous sets.

Like on the card Red Dragonthorn just spoiled, the parentheses are unnecessary, if anything, adding them makes the ability somewhat confusing instead of crystal clear.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #516 on: October 13, 2018, 10:06:45 PM »
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I really don't like how you guys are using parentheses in the abilities. In most card games parentheses are used as clarifying text. A few of these new cards are using parentheses in the place of "or" and "and". It's confusing on the first read, especially considering parentheses have never been used like this in previous sets.

Cards like Fishers of Men and Gideon's Call from I/J are examples of how we've been using parenthesis like that for a long time. It might go back before I/J, but those are the first examples on the new card face. If you search you'll find many others. I can't speak for the other cards games you're familiar with, but Redemption players seem to get it OK.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #517 on: October 14, 2018, 02:59:46 AM »
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Sorry, Gabe you are correct! Actually, I was snooping around and I noticed some cards use parentheses this way as far back as Priests! Crazy!

I will still keep my comment as is. I still don't like how parentheses are used though. At least in context with some of the recent cards spoiled.

Let's look at Fishers of Men for example.
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Reveal the top 3 cards of opponent’s deck (or top 9 if used by a Disciple); put the revealed Lost Souls in opponent’s territory and underdeck the rest.

The way it is used in Fishers of Men is very clear. The parentheses on this card are used as a way to make the "instead" of the card extra clear. The abilities are separated very clearly and both state what they do.

Zach says...
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If you control another minor prophet negate characters (and enhancements if you control another temple priest) in battle (except star cards).

The reason Zach is so unclear is because it's hard to tell if the ability is connected to the previous ability or if it is a second separated ability. Depending on the interpretation of what the card does... it would be much more clear if it instead said...

"If you control another minor prophet negate characters in battle. Negate enhancements in battle if you control another temple priest (except star cards)."

or...

"If you control another minor prophet and temple priest; negate characters and enhancements in battle (except star cards)."

I do appreciate that you guys are trying to become more consistent with wording on cards but "Redemption" language can become confusing when it breaks from formal English traditions. If I have to dig in the rules or read a card multiple times to figure out what a card does that isn't a good thing. If that means making the special ability a little longer, I think it's worth it.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #518 on: October 14, 2018, 08:43:00 AM »
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This is my player created card. Had some other ideas, but they were a bit to strong for the standard of player created cards. Hope you enjoy.

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #519 on: October 14, 2018, 09:00:33 AM »
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, that's our first card that uses a photograph for card art.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #520 on: October 14, 2018, 09:18:07 AM »
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, that's our first card that uses a photograph for card art.
I think Denarius from Disciples has a photo for its art. Still, it doesn't happen that often.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #521 on: October 14, 2018, 09:32:02 AM »
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This is my player created card. Had some other ideas, but they were a bit to strong for the standard of player created cards. Hope you enjoy.

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I like this card.  Quite strong yet simple.  Good job, Brian (although I know it isn't exactly what you designed).

May I propose something to the elder team and community.  A few months ago I was thinking of card ideas when I thought about Spiritual Gifts from 1 Corin. 12.  There are several kinds, and I thought it would be pretty cool to create these gifts in the same fashion as the Armor of God and Fruit of the Spirit cards.  These cards could also help bring back The Holy Spirit dominant in some decks as all, or some of them, would be tied to THS card. 

One of the gifts is Faith (verse 9).  After seeing Brian's, I was thinking that if the elder team had already thought of the Spiritual Gifts being introduced in a future set, this card could be considered one of them. If Spiritual Gifts is already in the plans for a future expansion, or if my proposal sparks inspiration for them to be in a future expansion, perhaps this Faith card could have the identifier "Spiritual Gift" as a herald to those cards.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #522 on: October 14, 2018, 09:37:46 AM »
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, that's our first card that uses a photograph for card art.

We've used a number of public domain photographs, usually we run them through one or more filters to make them appear like a painting.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #523 on: October 14, 2018, 10:23:44 AM »
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Had some other ideas, but they were a bit to strong for the standard of player created cards.

I'd say this one is plenty strong! Definitely going to see this getting tons of play.

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #524 on: October 14, 2018, 10:40:15 AM »
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Just an idea. Maybe a card tied into Noah. A photo of the earth from the moon.  Ps I like the new faith card.
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