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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #475 on: October 12, 2018, 03:04:13 PM »
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I'm assuming this would let you look at their hand and chose the good card?

Correct. They streamlined the wording that took out wording like “look at opponent’s hand and...” If it gave the choice to the opponent then it would be specifically worded as such.

And if you think about it, we already use an implied "Look at opponent's deck..." for abilities like the EE discard on Hidden Treasures, etc.

Well for deck with hidden treasures I believe it would be an implied search not look, but the same idea applies.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #476 on: October 12, 2018, 03:14:28 PM »
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Regrets is a pretty great enhancement. 3-for-1 on your opponent's evil, neutral, and good card is strong, not to mention the star ability being a mini Vain Philosophy. It's in two fairly strong brigades as well.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #477 on: October 12, 2018, 03:17:33 PM »
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The natural feeling of regret might overcome you if you betrayed a friend.

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #478 on: October 12, 2018, 03:32:32 PM »
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could you chose to underdeck a good dom in play or does it have to be from their hand?

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #479 on: October 12, 2018, 03:41:55 PM »
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could you chose to underdeck a good dom in play or does it have to be from their hand?

If you’re referring to Regrets, based upon there being a colon ( : ) used, the good dom must come from that revealed hand.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #480 on: October 12, 2018, 03:55:26 PM »
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And regrets can also DC an opponent's evil human I assume?
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #481 on: October 12, 2018, 04:15:34 PM »
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And regrets can also an opponent's evil human I assume?

If it’s played as an EE in battle, yes.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #482 on: October 12, 2018, 05:40:17 PM »
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I've never known anyone who's wanted to use all the beasts in the same deck. That's five brigades...
You're only thinking like a completive player. There are far more people that play Redemption for fun. Some of them will enjoy putting all the beasts into a deck (I happen to be one of them) without having them all discard one another. Rather than have all Daniel decks look the same, it will be possible to build at least 3 different defenses to use with Daniel Heroes (Babylonians, Persians and beasts/demons).

Perhaps, but that's how I've always been. I am trying to think ahead as well. :2cents:
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #483 on: October 12, 2018, 05:49:38 PM »
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The natural feeling of regret might overcome you if you betrayed a friend.

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Discard 3 of an opponent's cards? Yeah, that doesn't seem OP... :P

Not unless your opponent doesn’t have an evil human, good card, and an activate artifact in play at the same time (also assuming you don’t want to discard your own evil human). Besides, it’s negatable. It is a strong card, nonetheless, but not necessarily OP.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #484 on: October 12, 2018, 06:25:11 PM »
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The last two spoilers of the day will come from John later tonight but his work schedule has pushed those back a bit.

Most changes and tweaks that we're making to the previewed cards will be revealed all at once when the images I finalized. There's simply too much going on to keep those updated here. While we're waiting I thought I'd share an update with you an update to Hannah to tie her to Samuel.

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P.S. The image for Regrets has also been updated to reflect a stat change.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #485 on: October 12, 2018, 06:48:36 PM »
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The last two spoilers of the day will come from John later tonight but his work schedule has pushed those back a bit.

Most changes and tweaks that we're making to the previewed cards will be revealed all at once when the images I finalized. There's simply too much going on to keep those updated here. While we're waiting I thought I'd share an update with you an update to Hannah to tie her to Samuel.

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P.S. The image for Regrets has also been updated to reflect a stat change.

Thank you for responding to the requests for Samuel to be tied to her ability.  I am digging this card even more now. 👍
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #486 on: October 12, 2018, 08:01:21 PM »
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Some feedback notes from some the cards I have looked at so far.


Melchizedek

If opponent uses an evil search ability , you may discard an evil card from their deck.

A player with Melchizedek can discard an evil dominant card from an opponent's deck at the moment.

maybe it could be changed to may discard an evil card (except an evil dominant ) from their deck.

Jackals 

You may banish a card ( or 2 characters from a discard pile) If Jackals is discarded , discard a Hero. May band to Jackals. Can not be prevented.

In terms of type 2 you can have 4 copies of it and they would for the most part could be 4 auto blocks against lone heroes by simply putting in battle and then letting it get discarded by numbers battle resolution.

Maybe the special ability could be changed to "If Jackals is discarded by a special ability by an opponent"

and/or

the CBP could be removed.

or

maybe increase the strength and toughness on them so it can somewhat negatable.

The Terrifying Beast:

 Underdeck a character(except a Roman). Its owner may underdeck a card of matching brigade from hand instead. May band to a Roman. Cannot be negated.

Seems too strong at the moment.

Some suggestions or thoughts on the card:
 
- I would like to keep the strong band ability if possible (CBI or CBN band ability)

-  Don't think this character should have Unity , unless maybe something like this: Unity evil characters matching brigade , might work.

- Could change entire ability to CBI

-  or because the underdeck is not conditional (compared to other emperor and entrapping pharisees) , owner should have choice to under a card of matching brigade from hand or territory.

- or somehow make the band ability CBN but the other ability CBP or CBI.

The Great Fish Evil character:

 Negate up to X cards. you may set aside a hero for 3 turns. On return , shuffle this card.

- So far it is a unconditional lone hero auto block off of a character ability seems like the ability  might be too strong of an ability.

Maybe this is still okay as maybe there will be enough decks to contain enhancements that simply negate an evil card these days?? 
 
or the ability could be:

You may set aside a Hero for 3 turns. If you do , shuffle this card after battle.



Jonah SA:

While Nineveh is in play  , if opponent uses a search ability , they must shuffle  their card ( or 2 if X is 2 or greater).

- Seems like Jonah's special ability is stuck to Nineveh being in play.  If Nineveh is not in play he does not do much. 

Similiar to sepjazzwarrior and Watchman posts, maybe Jonah's ability could be changed to " If opponent uses a search abilitiy , you may shuffle their card."

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #487 on: October 12, 2018, 08:02:06 PM »
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As for Zechariah:


Zechariah SA: If you control another minor prophet negate characters (and enhancements if you control another temple priest) in battle (except star cards)

So I read it this ability would be:

If you control another minor prophet negate characters in battle (except star cards) , If you control another temple priest  negate enhancements in battle (except star cards)

I would assume this would be correct??

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #488 on: October 12, 2018, 11:23:55 PM »
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Sorry! Work was crazy!

Here's today's last two spoilers!

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #489 on: October 13, 2018, 12:02:26 AM »
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #490 on: October 13, 2018, 12:06:59 AM »
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Yeeeeeeessss, more red warriors!

EDIT: A more moderate and not first reaction response: It's good to see Red's getting more drawing abilities than just Ishmiah or Throne splashing. Maybe one day we'll be able to reasonably run Red decks without Throne.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #491 on: October 13, 2018, 08:26:08 AM »
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As for Zechariah:


Zechariah SA: If you control another minor prophet negate characters (and enhancements if you control another temple priest) in battle (except star cards)

So I read it this ability would be:

If you control another minor prophet negate characters in battle (except star cards) , If you control another temple priest  negate enhancements in battle (except star cards)

I would assume this would be correct??

Correct.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #492 on: October 13, 2018, 09:53:33 AM »
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How about some weekend spoilers?!!? On Saturday and Sunday we'll only be dropping 3-4 cards per day total, but lets keep the HYPE going!

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #493 on: October 13, 2018, 11:10:01 AM »
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Looks awesome!! Along with providing more variety in deck builds, I also like how this gives players who didn't go to that Nats and can't afford to buy the promo version an accessible option!
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #494 on: October 13, 2018, 02:01:01 PM »
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Happy to see we're getting a new Noah's Ark! I was really disappointed when CoW made a lot of cards that works with Noah's Ark and the Noah's Ark card we got was the Nationals Promo that year.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #495 on: October 13, 2018, 02:16:21 PM »
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #496 on: October 13, 2018, 02:28:33 PM »
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Can you see the writing on the wall?

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Holy Daniel decks, Batman!

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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #497 on: October 13, 2018, 02:37:36 PM »
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Slightly disappointed Guardian didn't get to spoil that one. I can't find his old card idea thread but didn't that version let the opponent pick a card to discard or something like that instead of being random? I'm not too opposed to the randomness on the player has a pretty good amount of control over it but I liked the design of it being opponent's choice.

Edit: Would it be possible to add "up to X" instead of "X"? A smaller number will actually be better in a lot of cases since you'll probably want keep some cards safe from the discard and it feels a little weird for a Babylonian synergy card to actually punish you for playing lots of Babylonians.

Edit2: Found the old thread, image is gone but his post references randomness. I guess either someone suggested opponent's choice as an alternate version or I completely misremembered. I still like the idea though.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #498 on: October 13, 2018, 02:42:52 PM »
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Slightly disappointed Guardian didn't get to spoil that one. I can't find his old card idea thread but didn't that version let the opponent pick a card to discard or something like that instead of being random? I'm not too opposed to the randomness on the player has a pretty good amount of control over it but I liked the design of it being opponent's choice.

Edit: Would it be possible to add "up to X" instead of "X"? A smaller number will actually be better in a lot of cases since you'll probably want keep some cards safe from the discard and it feels a little weird for a Babylonian synergy card to actually punish you for playing lots of Babylonians.

Justin's original post has a broken link to the image but his comment says it's random.
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Re: PROPHECIES OF CHRIST (Spoiler thread)
« Reply #499 on: October 13, 2018, 03:04:26 PM »
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I see an alternate Flood survivor build with Ark of Salvation, but not exactly a Nationals placing one.  ;)
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