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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #100 on: February 17, 2019, 06:43:18 PM »
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It could be Authority of Christ.
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #101 on: February 17, 2019, 06:49:39 PM »
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Deceit of Saphiria, then?

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« Reply #102 on: February 17, 2019, 06:57:18 PM »
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We should probably offer clues so I'll begin with one...

The last will be the first... ::)

I know what it is and it too me a while to figure out how that clue applied. No Secrets... I can be pretty dense.

Well it wouldn't have been as much fun if we had starter off with an easy clue now would it... ::)
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #103 on: February 17, 2019, 07:01:48 PM »
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If it's not Grapes I'll be disappointed...
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #104 on: February 17, 2019, 07:04:08 PM »
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If it's not Grapes I'll be disappointed...

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #105 on: February 17, 2019, 07:09:26 PM »
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The Lost Souls card.

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #106 on: February 17, 2019, 07:11:12 PM »
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Liner is OT though. Also I doubt they would reprint a banned card.
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« Reply #107 on: February 17, 2019, 07:14:04 PM »
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Liner is OT though. Also I doubt they would reprint a banned card.

I guess my attempt at humor could be confusing to some if they are not aware of the ban.

However, on a more serious note, because it fits all and goes along with POC, my guess is:

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #108 on: February 17, 2019, 07:25:25 PM »
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If it's not Grapes I'll be disappointed...

It's not Grapes

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A Revealer LR would be cool if the original art was somehow obtained. Otherwise I have no more guesses.
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« Reply #109 on: February 17, 2019, 07:31:05 PM »
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If memory serves we did discuss Revealer, but there was an issue. Either Rob doesn't want to re-use any Angel Wars art or we decided we'd much rather use that particular artwork on a much better card (or an upgraded version of Revealer). I don't recall which it was though...
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« Reply #110 on: February 17, 2019, 07:43:49 PM »
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We might need a new clue giving philosophy here, seems like we're not getting very far
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« Reply #111 on: February 17, 2019, 08:34:16 PM »
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We might need a new clue giving philosophy here, seems like we're not getting very far

So, Philosophy is technically an N.T. enhancement on good. I doubt that's it, and I'm probably grasping at straws, but...

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #112 on: February 17, 2019, 08:40:00 PM »
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We might need a new clue giving philosophy here, seems like we're not getting very far

So, Philosophy is technically an N.T. enhancement on good. I doubt that's it, and I'm probably grasping at straws, but...

It could also be Vain Philosophy.
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #113 on: February 17, 2019, 08:46:30 PM »
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We might need a new clue giving philosophy here, seems like we're not getting very far

So, Philosophy is technically an N.T. enhancement on good. I doubt that's it, and I'm probably grasping at straws, but...

It could also be Vain Philosophy.

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #114 on: February 17, 2019, 08:52:20 PM »
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We should probably offer clues so I'll begin with one...

The last will be the first... ::)



This will be the first Legacy Rare from a card that's already on the new card face.  8)


Well it wouldn't have been as much fun if we had starter off with an easy clue now would it... ::)
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #115 on: February 17, 2019, 08:58:58 PM »
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We should probably offer clues so I'll begin with one...

The last will be the first... ::)



This will be the first Legacy Rare from a card that's already on the new card face.  8)

While I did realize that (it was one of the reasons I wasn't thinking about the fourth edition starter deck much), that was not what I got out of the clue... I kinda misremembered it and thought "first will be last" and since Vain Philosophy puts a card from hand at the bottom of a deck (hand is first and bottom of deck is last)... but then again at that point I just ran through all the clues in my head and made sure it nothing was completely off.


Well it wouldn't have been as much fun if we had starter off with an easy clue now would it... ::)

This clue was really helpful... in addition to the one that said "Philosophy".
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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #116 on: February 17, 2019, 10:07:44 PM »
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Why was VP chosen to be a legacy rare? Seems too contemporary to take up a LR slot when there are older cards that could use updating.
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« Reply #117 on: February 17, 2019, 10:29:12 PM »
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Why was VP chosen to be a legacy rare? Seems too contemporary to take up a LR slot when there are older cards that could use updating.

Seems to me that someone might have wanted more dominants with full card art...

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Re: ***SPOILERS*** PoC Legacy Rare Previews
« Reply #118 on: February 17, 2019, 10:31:14 PM »
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You can’t fully understand until you see how Vain we’ve become in phase 2. Even then you still might not approve, but at least it’ll make more sense.  ;D
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« Reply #119 on: February 17, 2019, 10:34:43 PM »
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You can’t fully understand until you see how Vain we’ve become in phase 2. Even then you still might not approve, but at least it’ll make more sense.  ;D

Well that’s interesting. I definitely like VP and used it in competitive decks so I’m curious to see how it ties in to phase II.
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« Reply #120 on: February 18, 2019, 12:12:14 AM »
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You can’t fully understand until you see how Vain we’ve become in phase 2. Even then you still might not approve, but at least it’ll make more sense.  ;D

Speaking of phase 2, any chance we'll start getting some spoilers for that in addition to the LRs? I heard there are some pretty neat cards in there ;D

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« Reply #121 on: February 18, 2019, 09:41:43 AM »
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These dudes have long been one of my favorite ECs... really looking forward to having a new look for them.  8)
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I like the new Astrologers. My only hiccup is the ability wording "and opponent must discard their card in territory" feels a little wonky. Maybe something like "and opponent must discard a card in their territory" or "and opponent must discard a card from their territory". It is just a feeling and I know it will go away. Otherwise, beautiful full art Legacy Rare.

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Good point, Mike. As it reads I could see it meaning that the opponent has to discard their card from your territory which is either confusing language or very different than the original Astrologers. I'll update the wording provided the other guys on the team agree.

Doing that will change the ability from the original, ever so slightly. As it is now, the opponent must own the card they discard (their card). Were it to be changed (a card in their territory), it could mean they discard something like Destructive Sin or another card they don't necessarily own, but have on their playing side.

Might not make much of a difference, but it would be different from the original.

I agree with you on this, so I went back to see how much of a difference it might make. It seems the current wording would also allow your opponent to discard one of their Lost Souls. The wording on the TxP version does not allow that to happen. I think the current wording on the LR should really be looked at for unintended consequences.

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« Reply #122 on: February 18, 2019, 09:52:41 AM »
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My understanding is that the rules have been updated to say that only cards that specifically discard souls are allowed to target them. Even something like Corrupt Earth, which reads "Discard a card.", can't target a soul.
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« Reply #123 on: February 18, 2019, 10:27:38 AM »
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If a site with a soul in it was targeted for discard would the soul follow? I don't have the REG handy at the moment.

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« Reply #124 on: February 18, 2019, 10:32:55 AM »
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If a site with a soul in it was targeted for discard would the soul follow? I don't have the REG handy at the moment.

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No -- LS only follow a site if a special ability also targets the contents of the site (i.e. Hormah).
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